1 00:00:44,282 --> 00:00:48,031 Here comes the President's helicopter, Marine helicopter number one... 2 00:00:48,119 --> 00:00:52,247 landing in the Plaza on the east side of the east front of the Capitol. 3 00:00:52,624 --> 00:00:55,744 Helicopter hovering gently, just off the ground. 4 00:00:56,753 --> 00:01:00,288 Amazing timing. The President flying all the way across the world... 5 00:01:00,381 --> 00:01:01,924 across the Atlantic Ocean... 6 00:01:02,008 --> 00:01:06,385 arriving almost exactly as scheduled at 9:30... 7 00:01:06,763 --> 00:01:08,257 in the Capitol Plaza... 8 00:01:08,348 --> 00:01:11,100 so that he can go up the steps of the House of Representatives... 9 00:01:11,184 --> 00:01:15,016 go into the chamber, and address the members of the House and the Senate... 10 00:01:15,105 --> 00:01:17,975 the Supreme Court, the diplomatic corps of Washington... 11 00:01:18,066 --> 00:01:20,189 all of whom are inside waiting for him... 12 00:01:20,276 --> 00:01:22,150 in the chamber of the House of Representatives. 13 00:01:22,237 --> 00:01:23,612 Mr. Speaker... 14 00:01:23,697 --> 00:01:26,614 the President of the United States. 15 00:01:34,165 --> 00:01:36,953 And the President, accompanied by the Escort Committee... 16 00:01:37,043 --> 00:01:40,543 comes down the central aisle, approaching the podium... 17 00:01:41,923 --> 00:01:43,334 greets members of his Cabinet... 18 00:01:43,425 --> 00:01:46,675 and those who are waiting to be confirmed as members of his Cabinet... 19 00:01:46,761 --> 00:01:48,837 as he reaches the rostrum. 20 00:01:51,892 --> 00:01:54,643 Shakes hands with the Speaker, Carl Albert... 21 00:01:55,353 --> 00:01:57,429 A happy President, smiling. 22 00:01:58,773 --> 00:02:01,940 Ladies and gentlemen, President Nixon will, in a moment... 23 00:02:02,027 --> 00:02:05,645 address the Congress and the people of the United States. 24 00:02:08,408 --> 00:02:09,523 Thank you. 25 00:04:05,692 --> 00:04:08,100 Car 727. Car 727. 26 00:04:08,195 --> 00:04:10,437 Open door at the Watergate office building. 27 00:04:10,531 --> 00:04:13,069 Possible burglary. See the security guard. 28 00:04:13,158 --> 00:04:15,032 Are you sure you want us? 29 00:04:15,202 --> 00:04:17,278 517 is closer and they're in uniform. 30 00:04:17,371 --> 00:04:19,613 They're getting gas. You take it. 31 00:04:42,062 --> 00:04:43,687 Unit 1 to Unit 2. 32 00:04:45,816 --> 00:04:47,394 Unit 1 to Unit 2. 33 00:04:47,901 --> 00:04:49,978 - What? - We're home. 34 00:05:08,005 --> 00:05:09,796 Base 1 to Unit 1. 35 00:05:10,925 --> 00:05:12,300 Base 1 to Unit 1. 36 00:05:13,177 --> 00:05:15,004 We have some activity here. 37 00:05:15,721 --> 00:05:17,263 Silence is advised. 38 00:05:20,851 --> 00:05:22,049 Shut it off. 39 00:05:31,445 --> 00:05:33,070 Base 1 to Unit 1. 40 00:05:33,948 --> 00:05:35,857 Lights on the eighth floor. 41 00:05:36,742 --> 00:05:38,367 Base 1 to Unit 1. 42 00:05:40,246 --> 00:05:41,954 Is there anybody there? 43 00:05:47,962 --> 00:05:50,879 There's people, people on the balcony. Armed people. 44 00:05:53,467 --> 00:05:55,175 Base 1 to Unit 1. 45 00:05:57,722 --> 00:06:01,173 Base 1 to Unit 1. We may have some problems. 46 00:06:06,897 --> 00:06:08,356 Someone's here. 47 00:06:34,675 --> 00:06:36,917 - Hold it, you... - Police! 48 00:06:38,012 --> 00:06:39,423 Put your hands up! 49 00:06:50,483 --> 00:06:51,894 Drop that jacket! 50 00:06:54,278 --> 00:06:58,062 Walkie-talkie, two 35mm cameras. 51 00:06:58,991 --> 00:07:00,783 Got it. That's good. 52 00:07:01,244 --> 00:07:02,821 All right, stay there. 53 00:07:03,621 --> 00:07:05,614 I already got something for you. Did you see this? 54 00:07:05,706 --> 00:07:07,616 A couple sleeping in bed, car hits the house... 55 00:07:07,708 --> 00:07:09,701 goes through the bedroom, comes out the other side. 56 00:07:09,794 --> 00:07:11,122 Good morning. Crash. 57 00:07:11,212 --> 00:07:13,288 Lewis is over at Democratic headquarters. 58 00:07:13,381 --> 00:07:15,788 One of the burglars had $814. 59 00:07:16,008 --> 00:07:19,508 One $230, one $215, and one $234. 60 00:07:19,804 --> 00:07:23,636 Most of it was in $100 bills and in sequence. 61 00:07:24,350 --> 00:07:25,679 - Woodward? - Yeah? 62 00:07:25,768 --> 00:07:27,808 There's been a break-in at the Democratic headquarters. 63 00:07:27,895 --> 00:07:29,888 - There's been an arrest. - Local Democratic headquarters. 64 00:07:29,981 --> 00:07:31,060 They were bugging the place. 65 00:07:31,149 --> 00:07:33,604 Check the time of arraignment, and get over there. 66 00:07:33,693 --> 00:07:36,480 And, Woodward, it was National Democratic headquarters. 67 00:07:36,571 --> 00:07:37,899 All right. 68 00:07:39,324 --> 00:07:41,316 - Anything else? - Anything else? 69 00:07:41,659 --> 00:07:44,660 Break-in, car crash. That's not bad for a Saturday. 70 00:07:44,746 --> 00:07:46,537 Okay, let me know what happens. Hello, Carl. 71 00:07:46,623 --> 00:07:47,903 Got anything on that couple? 72 00:07:47,999 --> 00:07:50,371 Harry, I know somebody on the staff over at Watergate. 73 00:07:50,460 --> 00:07:53,829 Bernstein, why don't you finish one story before trying to get on another? 74 00:07:53,922 --> 00:07:55,332 I finished it. 75 00:07:55,673 --> 00:07:57,630 - The Virginia Legislature story? - I finished it. 76 00:07:57,717 --> 00:07:59,377 All right, give it to me. 77 00:07:59,802 --> 00:08:02,340 I'm just polishing it. I'll work the phones. 78 00:08:02,430 --> 00:08:04,802 Polishing it? Yeah, you work the phones. 79 00:08:10,688 --> 00:08:14,223 Excuse me, I'm sorry, who are the lawyers for the five men arrested at Watergate? 80 00:08:14,317 --> 00:08:15,396 Do you know? 81 00:08:15,485 --> 00:08:17,892 - Well, these two were assigned to it. - I'm sorry? 82 00:08:17,987 --> 00:08:20,313 These two were appointed to the case. 83 00:08:20,532 --> 00:08:23,568 But only now it turns out the burglars have their own counsel. 84 00:08:23,660 --> 00:08:25,866 - The burglars have their own counsel? - That's right. 85 00:08:25,954 --> 00:08:27,993 That's kind of unusual, wouldn't you say? 86 00:08:28,081 --> 00:08:29,741 For burglars it's unusual. 87 00:08:29,833 --> 00:08:33,533 - You know the name of the counsel? - I don't know. Some country-club type. 88 00:08:34,254 --> 00:08:36,626 You are charged with soliciting prostitution... 89 00:08:36,714 --> 00:08:38,672 at 14th and east street. 90 00:08:39,300 --> 00:08:42,716 And you get as your solicitor, one Perry Woodstock. 91 00:08:43,179 --> 00:08:47,224 Your Honor, Mrs. Hawkin has in the past been a reliable, hardworking parent. 92 00:08:47,308 --> 00:08:51,602 Parents are sworn over. I think $300 would be acceptable... 93 00:08:51,688 --> 00:08:53,894 Excuse me, what is your name? 94 00:08:55,066 --> 00:08:57,771 I'm Bob Woodward of the Washington Post. 95 00:08:58,945 --> 00:09:00,653 - Markham. - Markham. 96 00:09:00,864 --> 00:09:04,564 Mr. Markham, are you here in connection with the Watergate burglary? 97 00:09:05,410 --> 00:09:06,904 I'm not here. 98 00:09:10,206 --> 00:09:11,286 Okay. 99 00:09:13,752 --> 00:09:15,875 Well, clearly, I am here... 100 00:09:16,296 --> 00:09:19,463 but only as an individual, not as the attorney of record. 101 00:09:19,591 --> 00:09:20,753 Who is? 102 00:09:21,551 --> 00:09:22,926 Mr. Starkey. 103 00:09:24,346 --> 00:09:26,504 - Do you have any... - Whatever you want... 104 00:09:26,598 --> 00:09:30,014 you'll have to get it from him. I have nothing more to say. 105 00:09:40,028 --> 00:09:41,855 Starkey. S-T... 106 00:09:46,535 --> 00:09:48,159 Mr. Starkey was very helpful. 107 00:09:48,245 --> 00:09:51,614 Four Cuban Americans and another man, James W. McCord. 108 00:09:52,457 --> 00:09:55,541 Look, I told you inside, I have nothing more to say. 109 00:09:55,627 --> 00:09:57,287 I understand that. 110 00:09:57,963 --> 00:10:00,833 What I don't understand is how you got here. 111 00:10:01,508 --> 00:10:04,628 I assure you there's nothing very mysterious involved. 112 00:10:04,803 --> 00:10:07,590 Well, a little while ago, I was talking to a couple of the lawyers... 113 00:10:07,681 --> 00:10:09,472 assigned to represent the burglars. 114 00:10:09,558 --> 00:10:10,637 So? 115 00:10:10,725 --> 00:10:13,299 They never would have been assigned to represent the burglars... 116 00:10:13,395 --> 00:10:16,312 had anyone known the burglars had arranged for their own counsel. 117 00:10:16,398 --> 00:10:18,971 Only, the burglars couldn't have arranged for their own counsel... 118 00:10:19,067 --> 00:10:21,475 since they never even made a phone call. 119 00:10:21,903 --> 00:10:24,940 So, if no one asked you to be here, why are you here? 120 00:10:25,741 --> 00:10:27,733 I don't want you to take this personally, Mr... 121 00:10:27,826 --> 00:10:29,320 - Woodward. - Woodward. 122 00:10:29,703 --> 00:10:31,660 It'd be a mistake to do that. 123 00:10:32,414 --> 00:10:34,537 I just don't have anything to say. 124 00:10:46,011 --> 00:10:49,380 Did one of the other men involved in the break-in call you? 125 00:10:50,807 --> 00:10:53,892 What reason do you have to assume that there were other people involved? 126 00:10:53,977 --> 00:10:56,931 Well, one of your clients was arrested with a walkie-talkie. 127 00:10:57,022 --> 00:10:58,682 They're not my clients. 128 00:11:00,108 --> 00:11:01,935 Now, I don't want to talk about this anymore. 129 00:11:02,027 --> 00:11:04,352 You're a lawyer and you're here. 130 00:11:05,948 --> 00:11:09,780 One of the defendants, Mr. Barker, and I met at a social occasion once. 131 00:11:09,868 --> 00:11:13,035 - Where? - I have nothing else to say. 132 00:11:13,121 --> 00:11:14,201 A Miami social occasion? 133 00:11:14,289 --> 00:11:16,911 Mr. Starkey says the Cubans were from Miami. 134 00:11:17,793 --> 00:11:19,702 L-62, James McCord. 135 00:11:19,795 --> 00:11:21,586 L-63, Bernard Barker. 136 00:11:21,672 --> 00:11:24,423 L-64, Virgil Gonzales. 137 00:11:24,508 --> 00:11:26,666 L-65, Eugenio Martinez. 138 00:11:26,802 --> 00:11:29,340 L-66, Frank Sturgis. 139 00:11:29,805 --> 00:11:32,047 Please step forward, Attorney Starkey. 140 00:11:32,141 --> 00:11:34,133 All charged with Burglary 2. 141 00:11:36,728 --> 00:11:39,813 - Mr. Starkey, will you represent all five? - Yes, Your Honor. 142 00:11:39,898 --> 00:11:43,102 And are all five gentlemen charged with burglary, second degree? 143 00:11:43,193 --> 00:11:44,272 Yes, Your Honor. 144 00:11:44,361 --> 00:11:46,983 Your names, please, and state your professions. 145 00:11:47,239 --> 00:11:50,240 Bernard Barker, anti-communist. 146 00:11:51,034 --> 00:11:54,783 Anti-communist? That, sir, is not your average profession. 147 00:11:57,541 --> 00:12:00,542 James McCord, security consultant. 148 00:12:00,669 --> 00:12:01,832 Where? 149 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,874 Government. Recently retired. 150 00:12:05,341 --> 00:12:09,089 - Where in the government? - Central Intelligence Agency. 151 00:12:09,553 --> 00:12:10,716 Where? 152 00:12:11,055 --> 00:12:12,253 The CIA. 153 00:12:13,098 --> 00:12:16,016 Sturgis, Frank A., salvage operator. 154 00:12:16,602 --> 00:12:17,930 Holy shit! 155 00:12:19,188 --> 00:12:21,893 Eugenio Martinez, known as Gene Valdez. 156 00:12:21,982 --> 00:12:24,271 James W. McCord, alias Edward Martin. 157 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,233 Frank Sturgis, alias Frank Fiorini. 158 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,194 All five of them had at least one alias. 159 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:31,317 Is there any proof they were trying to bug the National Democratic Chairman? 160 00:12:31,408 --> 00:12:33,152 It's obvious they were trying to bug O'Brien. 161 00:12:33,244 --> 00:12:35,236 They wouldn't go to all that trouble to bug secretaries. 162 00:12:35,329 --> 00:12:36,609 - There's no proof. - Wait a minute. 163 00:12:36,705 --> 00:12:37,950 I called a lawyer in Miami I know. 164 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,709 He said four of the guys who were arrested were from Miami... 165 00:12:40,793 --> 00:12:43,165 Gonzales, Martinez, Sturgis, and Barker. 166 00:12:43,254 --> 00:12:47,002 Yeah, Barker. And all four of them were involved in CIA activities... 167 00:12:47,091 --> 00:12:48,668 - No, they weren't. - Yeah. 168 00:12:48,759 --> 00:12:51,962 No, only one of them was admitted CIA, and the CIA won't confirm that. 169 00:12:52,054 --> 00:12:53,963 In fact, they deny even knowing McCord. 170 00:12:54,056 --> 00:12:57,306 Yeah, but I just think it's obvious that with all that money and equipment... 171 00:12:57,393 --> 00:13:01,058 they weren't out to work by themselves. Somebody hired them. 172 00:13:01,147 --> 00:13:02,938 I'm not interested in what you think is obvious. 173 00:13:03,023 --> 00:13:04,138 I'm interested in what you know. 174 00:13:04,233 --> 00:13:06,985 What we don't know is why they wanted to bug Democratic Headquarters. 175 00:13:07,069 --> 00:13:08,611 Whether they were working for themselves... 176 00:13:08,696 --> 00:13:10,356 or other individuals or other organizations. 177 00:13:10,448 --> 00:13:12,405 Could be a story, or could just be crazy Cubans. 178 00:13:12,491 --> 00:13:14,614 Bachinski, when you get there tonight, take it easy. 179 00:13:14,702 --> 00:13:16,326 The police are nervous. 180 00:13:24,962 --> 00:13:26,077 Yeah? 181 00:13:26,172 --> 00:13:27,880 Bachinski, calling from Police Headquarters. 182 00:13:27,965 --> 00:13:30,373 A friend just showed me what they found in the hotel rooms... 183 00:13:30,468 --> 00:13:31,547 of the Watergate burglars. 184 00:13:31,635 --> 00:13:33,675 There's something here you might want to look into. 185 00:13:33,763 --> 00:13:36,135 Hang on. Okay, go ahead. 186 00:13:36,223 --> 00:13:39,308 There's a strange entry in two of the burglars'address books. 187 00:13:39,393 --> 00:13:42,809 - Yeah. - One says, "H.H. At W.H." 188 00:13:43,522 --> 00:13:46,476 The other says, "Howard Hunt, W. House." 189 00:13:49,904 --> 00:13:51,861 You can dial the White House direct, can't you? 190 00:13:51,948 --> 00:13:53,062 Yeah. 191 00:13:53,157 --> 00:13:57,071 - What's the number? - 456-1414. 192 00:14:07,922 --> 00:14:10,377 - White House. - Howard Hunt, please. 193 00:14:10,925 --> 00:14:13,131 Mr. Hunt isn't here just now. 194 00:14:13,427 --> 00:14:16,428 He might be in Mr. Colson's office. I'll connect you. 195 00:14:17,098 --> 00:14:18,426 Thank you. 196 00:14:19,183 --> 00:14:21,853 - Charles Colson's office. - Howard Hunt, please. 197 00:14:21,936 --> 00:14:25,222 - Mr. Hunt isn't here just now. - Do you know when he'll be back? 198 00:14:25,314 --> 00:14:26,477 No, I don't. 199 00:14:26,941 --> 00:14:28,056 Okay, thank you. 200 00:14:28,151 --> 00:14:30,724 - Have you tried the Mullen Firm? - I beg your pardon? 201 00:14:30,820 --> 00:14:33,737 He also works as a writer at Mullen & Company Public Relations. 202 00:14:33,823 --> 00:14:35,899 Do you have a phone on that or an address, please? 203 00:14:35,992 --> 00:14:37,616 No, I don't. I'm sorry. 204 00:14:37,994 --> 00:14:39,239 All right, thank you. 205 00:14:43,166 --> 00:14:44,280 Harry? 206 00:14:45,042 --> 00:14:46,620 Who's Charles Colson? 207 00:14:48,254 --> 00:14:49,962 Who's Charles Colson? 208 00:14:50,506 --> 00:14:51,621 Sit down. 209 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:54,793 You know, I'm glad you asked me that question. 210 00:14:54,886 --> 00:14:56,878 The reason I'm glad you asked me is because... 211 00:14:56,971 --> 00:14:59,343 if you had asked Simons or Bradlee, they would've said: 212 00:14:59,432 --> 00:15:03,299 "You know we're going to have to fire this schmuck at once because he's so dumb!" 213 00:15:03,394 --> 00:15:05,268 Who is Charles Colson? 214 00:15:06,147 --> 00:15:09,267 The most powerful man in the United States is President Nixon. 215 00:15:09,359 --> 00:15:10,769 You've heard of him? 216 00:15:12,862 --> 00:15:15,816 Charles Colson is Special Counsel to the President. 217 00:15:16,157 --> 00:15:18,150 There's a cartoon on his wall. 218 00:15:18,785 --> 00:15:22,118 Caption reads, "When you've got them by the balls... 219 00:15:22,288 --> 00:15:24,910 "their hearts and minds will follow." 220 00:15:31,965 --> 00:15:33,127 Mullen & Company. 221 00:15:33,216 --> 00:15:35,707 - Howard Hunt, please. - One moment, please. 222 00:15:36,636 --> 00:15:38,130 Howard Hunt here. 223 00:15:39,389 --> 00:15:42,058 Hi, I'm Bob Woodward of the Washington Post. 224 00:15:42,141 --> 00:15:43,719 Yes, what is it? 225 00:15:44,227 --> 00:15:46,800 I was just kind of wondering why your name and phone number... 226 00:15:46,896 --> 00:15:50,764 were in the address books of two of the men arrested at Watergate? 227 00:15:50,859 --> 00:15:51,938 Good God! 228 00:15:53,152 --> 00:15:54,232 Do you care to comment? 229 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,985 In view that the matter is under adjudication, I have no comment. 230 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:00,315 Hello? 231 00:16:00,410 --> 00:16:02,486 This is Bob Woodward of the Washington Post. 232 00:16:02,579 --> 00:16:05,663 I was told that you had worked with a Mr. Howard Hunt. 233 00:16:05,999 --> 00:16:08,038 Why would anyone say that? 234 00:16:08,168 --> 00:16:09,828 You do know Mr. Hunt? 235 00:16:09,919 --> 00:16:13,584 No, I don't believe so, and I can't imagine why anyone would say that. 236 00:16:13,673 --> 00:16:16,674 Listen, I'm really sorry, but I was on my way out. Goodbye. 237 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,796 Could we just confirm a couple... Bye. 238 00:16:22,974 --> 00:16:26,390 - Did you say the Washington Post? - Yes, that's right, the Post. 239 00:16:26,478 --> 00:16:30,641 Your publishing firm was listed in some papers in connection with a Howard Hunt. 240 00:16:30,732 --> 00:16:32,890 Yeah, he's one of our authors. 241 00:16:33,151 --> 00:16:35,025 He wrote spy novels, I think. 242 00:16:35,528 --> 00:16:38,980 What type of spy novels were they? Were they modern, or were they period... 243 00:16:39,074 --> 00:16:41,647 You say, "wrote"? You mean he's no longer with you anymore? 244 00:16:41,743 --> 00:16:42,941 No, not at this time. 245 00:16:43,036 --> 00:16:45,361 How long has it been since you've heard from him? 246 00:16:45,455 --> 00:16:46,735 A couple of years, I think. 247 00:16:46,831 --> 00:16:49,868 Could you tell me some of the names of the novels that he has written? 248 00:16:51,878 --> 00:16:54,879 - Hello? Is this Mr. Paul Herrera? - ¿Quién? 249 00:16:55,215 --> 00:16:57,788 This is Bob Woodward of the Washington Post. 250 00:16:58,635 --> 00:17:01,470 Bob Woodward of the... Do you speak English? 251 00:17:02,389 --> 00:17:04,796 Momento, momento. 252 00:17:04,891 --> 00:17:08,723 Do any of you guys speak English? Do any of you guys speak Spanish? 253 00:17:12,482 --> 00:17:14,060 - Señor. - Sí. 254 00:17:19,906 --> 00:17:21,982 Never mind. Thank you. 255 00:17:22,409 --> 00:17:23,784 Thank you. Never mind. 256 00:17:30,458 --> 00:17:32,083 - Hello. - Mr. Bennett? 257 00:17:32,169 --> 00:17:33,579 - Yes. - This is Bob Woodward... 258 00:17:33,670 --> 00:17:34,749 of the Washington Post. 259 00:17:34,838 --> 00:17:35,917 Sorry to bother you at home. 260 00:17:36,006 --> 00:17:37,998 I was wondering if you could confirm some information... 261 00:17:38,091 --> 00:17:40,131 on one of your employees, Mr. Howard Hunt? 262 00:17:40,218 --> 00:17:41,416 What kind of information? 263 00:17:41,511 --> 00:17:43,089 It's just profile information mostly. 264 00:17:43,180 --> 00:17:45,587 We know, for example, that he works for Mullen & Company... 265 00:17:45,682 --> 00:17:49,596 or did work for Mullen & Company as a writer. He's also a novelist. 266 00:17:49,686 --> 00:17:52,936 We know that he works in the office of Mr. Charles Colson at the White House. 267 00:17:53,023 --> 00:17:54,185 And the CIA. 268 00:17:55,192 --> 00:17:56,602 And the CIA. 269 00:17:57,152 --> 00:18:00,106 If you're conducting that kind of investigation... 270 00:18:00,238 --> 00:18:04,283 then certainly it comes as no surprise to you that Howard was with the CIA. 271 00:18:04,368 --> 00:18:06,444 No, no surprise at all. 272 00:18:08,789 --> 00:18:11,114 Hunt worked for the CIA till 1970. 273 00:18:11,625 --> 00:18:13,617 From '49 to '70. Now, this is on deep background... 274 00:18:13,710 --> 00:18:16,166 but the FBI thinks he's involved with the break-in. 275 00:18:16,254 --> 00:18:17,369 What else you got? 276 00:18:17,464 --> 00:18:18,958 According to White House personnel... 277 00:18:19,049 --> 00:18:21,291 Hunt definitely worked there as a consultant for Colson. 278 00:18:21,385 --> 00:18:24,884 That's Charles Colson, the President's Special Counsel. 279 00:18:24,972 --> 00:18:26,596 Did you call the White House Press Office? 280 00:18:26,682 --> 00:18:28,057 I went over there. I talked to them. 281 00:18:28,141 --> 00:18:30,679 They said Hunt hadn't worked there for three months. 282 00:18:30,769 --> 00:18:33,438 Then a PR guy said this weird thing to me. 283 00:18:35,148 --> 00:18:37,556 He said, "I'm convinced that neither Mr. Colson... 284 00:18:37,651 --> 00:18:39,110 "nor anyone at the White House... 285 00:18:39,194 --> 00:18:41,566 "had any knowledge of or participation in... 286 00:18:41,655 --> 00:18:45,320 "this deplorable incident at the Democratic National Committee." 287 00:18:45,951 --> 00:18:49,201 - Isn't that what you'd expect them to say? - Absolutely. 288 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:51,159 So? 289 00:18:51,707 --> 00:18:53,580 I never asked about Watergate. 290 00:18:54,501 --> 00:18:57,538 I simply asked what were Hunt's duties at the White House. 291 00:18:57,963 --> 00:19:01,462 They volunteered he was innocent when nobody asked if he was guilty. 292 00:19:03,719 --> 00:19:05,628 Be careful how you write it. 293 00:19:07,806 --> 00:19:10,476 Looks like we've got a White House consultant linked to the bugging. 294 00:19:10,559 --> 00:19:12,931 Harry, this isn't a police story anymore. This is national. 295 00:19:13,020 --> 00:19:14,728 We need a top political writer on it. 296 00:19:14,813 --> 00:19:16,473 Well, they don't want it. 297 00:19:16,732 --> 00:19:18,890 They're all over the goddamned map covering the Primaries. 298 00:19:18,984 --> 00:19:20,775 Besides, this guy has busted his ass. 299 00:19:20,861 --> 00:19:23,103 He's been on this paper for only nine months. 300 00:19:23,197 --> 00:19:25,403 - What's the matter with you? - He's a humper! 301 00:19:25,532 --> 00:19:27,774 What's he been writing about, rat shit in restaurants? 302 00:19:27,868 --> 00:19:30,359 - He's got no experience. - He got a few of them closed, didn't he? 303 00:19:30,454 --> 00:19:32,078 Minor incidents. Small government agencies. 304 00:19:32,164 --> 00:19:35,450 Have Mr. Moffitt come in here, please. And see if Mr. Bradlee's free. 305 00:19:35,542 --> 00:19:36,740 I want Ben to hear this. 306 00:19:36,835 --> 00:19:38,828 Sure Moffitt'll want the story for the National desk... 307 00:19:38,921 --> 00:19:40,415 now that we've built it into something. 308 00:19:40,506 --> 00:19:41,964 Even Bernstein's busting his ass! 309 00:19:42,049 --> 00:19:45,216 I read that cockamamie memorandum he wrote on the break-in. 310 00:19:45,302 --> 00:19:47,627 All right, so some of it was bullshit. 311 00:19:47,721 --> 00:19:49,299 What is the matter with you? 312 00:19:49,390 --> 00:19:52,390 You told me yourself you were going to fire him last month. 313 00:19:53,060 --> 00:19:56,761 Look, he wants on the story bad. They both do! 314 00:19:57,940 --> 00:19:59,683 He knows a lot of people. 315 00:20:00,859 --> 00:20:02,567 Howard, they're hungry! 316 00:20:02,653 --> 00:20:04,313 You remember when you were hungry? 317 00:21:24,110 --> 00:21:25,853 Hello. Can you get me Nigel... 318 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:32,575 Right away. 319 00:21:46,465 --> 00:21:48,209 - How's it going? - What are you doing? 320 00:21:48,301 --> 00:21:49,711 - Polishing it a little. - What? 321 00:21:49,802 --> 00:21:51,510 - Polishing it. - What's wrong with it? 322 00:21:51,596 --> 00:21:53,256 Nothing. Nothing. It's good. 323 00:21:53,347 --> 00:21:54,592 Then what are you doing with it? 324 00:21:54,682 --> 00:21:57,351 I'm just helping. It's a little fuzzy. 325 00:21:57,643 --> 00:21:58,841 May I have it? 326 00:21:58,936 --> 00:22:00,561 I don't think you're saying what you mean. 327 00:22:00,646 --> 00:22:02,057 I know exactly what I mean. 328 00:22:02,148 --> 00:22:03,808 Not here, I can't tell from this whether... 329 00:22:03,900 --> 00:22:05,691 Hunt works for Colson or Colson works for Hunt. 330 00:22:05,776 --> 00:22:07,686 - May I have it, please? - Some of the conclusions... 331 00:22:07,778 --> 00:22:09,688 - May I have it? - Yes. I'm not looking for a fight. 332 00:22:09,780 --> 00:22:11,109 I'm not looking for a fight, either. 333 00:22:11,199 --> 00:22:14,484 I'm just aware of the fact that you've only been here nine months. 334 00:22:14,827 --> 00:22:16,156 What's that got to do with anything? 335 00:22:16,245 --> 00:22:17,656 I've been in the business since I'm 16. 336 00:22:17,747 --> 00:22:18,826 What are you saying? 337 00:22:18,915 --> 00:22:21,666 I'm trying to tell you that if you'd read mine and then read yours... 338 00:22:21,751 --> 00:22:23,411 - May I read yours? - Yeah. 339 00:22:24,253 --> 00:22:26,412 I walked by, gave yours a glance, it didn't look right... 340 00:22:26,506 --> 00:22:28,083 so I just figured I'd refine it a little. 341 00:22:28,174 --> 00:22:30,048 The first paragraph has to have more clarity... 342 00:22:30,134 --> 00:22:31,593 if the reader's going to understand it. 343 00:22:31,677 --> 00:22:34,595 You don't mention Colson's name till the third paragraph. 344 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,673 I think mine's better. But you go ahead and read it. 345 00:22:36,766 --> 00:22:38,924 If you think yours is better, we'll give yours to the desk. 346 00:22:39,018 --> 00:22:41,058 I've got Colson's name up front. 347 00:22:42,271 --> 00:22:44,347 He's a White House consultant and nobody knows it. 348 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:45,899 You're right. 349 00:22:46,567 --> 00:22:48,145 Yours is better. 350 00:22:59,956 --> 00:23:01,948 If you're going to do it, do it right. Here are my notes. 351 00:23:02,041 --> 00:23:04,081 If you're going to hype it, hype it with the facts. 352 00:23:04,168 --> 00:23:07,169 I don't mind what you did. I mind the way you did it. 353 00:23:08,631 --> 00:23:10,291 Woodward. Bernstein. 354 00:23:10,383 --> 00:23:12,791 You're both on the story. Now don't fuck it up. 355 00:23:19,392 --> 00:23:22,559 Steuben, what's the name of that girl that you bombed out with... 356 00:23:22,645 --> 00:23:25,136 - that works in Colson's office? - Sharon Lyle. 357 00:23:26,983 --> 00:23:30,518 - Why are you looking at me like that? - You're attractive. 358 00:23:32,197 --> 00:23:33,857 You are very attractive. 359 00:23:34,324 --> 00:23:36,862 You know, my girlfriend told me to watch out for you. 360 00:23:36,951 --> 00:23:39,158 - Who? - I'm not giving any names. 361 00:23:40,538 --> 00:23:42,697 Steuben said you worked for Colson. 362 00:23:45,835 --> 00:23:48,207 Steuben's crazy. I never worked for Colson. 363 00:23:48,296 --> 00:23:49,576 That's what he said. 364 00:23:49,672 --> 00:23:53,717 I worked for an assistant. Colson was really big on secrets, anyway. 365 00:23:54,385 --> 00:23:57,837 Even if I had worked for him, I wouldn't know anything! 366 00:23:59,641 --> 00:24:03,306 Did you know Howard Hunt? Didn't he work in the office? 367 00:24:03,394 --> 00:24:04,675 Yeah, I knew Howard. 368 00:24:04,771 --> 00:24:07,060 - Nice? - He's a nice person. 369 00:24:07,357 --> 00:24:10,560 He's secretive, he is secretive, but a decent man. 370 00:24:10,860 --> 00:24:13,530 Do you have any idea what he did? 371 00:24:15,031 --> 00:24:18,198 The White House said he was doing some investigative work. 372 00:24:18,284 --> 00:24:19,565 What do you say? 373 00:24:21,413 --> 00:24:24,034 - He was doing investigative work. - On what? 374 00:24:26,584 --> 00:24:28,542 - Different things. - Like what? 375 00:24:30,588 --> 00:24:31,703 She warned me. 376 00:24:31,798 --> 00:24:34,467 I'm not going to take my book out. I'm just asking you. 377 00:24:35,552 --> 00:24:39,170 The scuttlebutt for a while was that he was investigating Kennedy. 378 00:24:39,264 --> 00:24:40,378 Go on. 379 00:24:40,724 --> 00:24:43,511 The White House was real paranoid about Teddy Kennedy. 380 00:24:45,228 --> 00:24:48,562 I remember seeing a book about Chappaquiddick on his desk. 381 00:24:48,648 --> 00:24:51,566 And he was always getting material out of the White House Library... 382 00:24:51,651 --> 00:24:54,771 and the Library of Congress, and anything he could find. 383 00:24:57,198 --> 00:24:58,741 White House Library. 384 00:24:58,825 --> 00:25:01,114 Hi, this is Carl Bernstein of the Washington Post... 385 00:25:01,203 --> 00:25:03,325 and I was just wondering if you can remember... 386 00:25:03,413 --> 00:25:07,363 any books that a Howard Hunt checked out on Senator Kennedy? 387 00:25:07,459 --> 00:25:09,167 - Howard Hunt? - Yes, ma'am. 388 00:25:10,462 --> 00:25:13,332 Yes, I think I do remember. 389 00:25:13,673 --> 00:25:15,962 He took out a whole lot of material. 390 00:25:16,134 --> 00:25:19,966 - Why don't you hold on and I'll see? - I sure will. Thank you very much. 391 00:25:33,151 --> 00:25:34,943 - Mr. Bernstein? - Yes, ma'am? 392 00:25:35,654 --> 00:25:37,646 - I was wrong. - I beg your pardon? 393 00:25:37,739 --> 00:25:42,282 The truth is, I don't have a card that says Mr. Hunt took any material. 394 00:25:43,578 --> 00:25:45,785 I don't remember getting material for... 395 00:25:45,872 --> 00:25:48,909 I do remember getting material for somebody, but it wasn't for Mr. Hunt. 396 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,281 All right. 397 00:25:51,002 --> 00:25:54,834 The truth is, I didn't have any requests at all from Mr. Hunt. 398 00:25:58,468 --> 00:26:01,220 The truth is, I don't know any Mr. Hunt. 399 00:26:06,143 --> 00:26:10,306 I was just wondering if you have any books... Hello? 400 00:26:14,484 --> 00:26:17,154 Yes, we're checking that information now. 401 00:26:17,237 --> 00:26:20,155 We'd just like to find out just what it was that Hunt did... 402 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,692 when he worked out as a White House consultant on the Pentagon Papers. 403 00:26:23,785 --> 00:26:25,445 Yes, I'd appreciate that, if you could. 404 00:26:25,537 --> 00:26:27,530 Yes, sir. Thank you. 405 00:26:27,623 --> 00:26:29,662 I just got off the phone with the White House librarian. 406 00:26:29,750 --> 00:26:31,992 You want to look at the notes on it? 407 00:26:33,545 --> 00:26:37,329 This is some stuff from the Eisenhower campaign in 1952... 408 00:26:37,424 --> 00:26:39,666 that Hunt was connected with. 409 00:26:41,845 --> 00:26:43,921 Did you call the White House Communications Office? 410 00:26:44,014 --> 00:26:46,386 No, I just got off the phone with the librarian. 411 00:26:47,851 --> 00:26:49,760 - 524-743. - I know the number. 412 00:26:52,022 --> 00:26:54,893 Between the first and second quote there's a complete contradiction. 413 00:26:54,983 --> 00:26:56,526 It's a space of about five seconds. 414 00:26:56,610 --> 00:26:57,808 - My feeling is... - Was this all... 415 00:26:57,903 --> 00:26:59,018 Mr. Clawson's office. 416 00:26:59,113 --> 00:27:00,856 This is Bob Woodward of the Washington Post. 417 00:27:00,948 --> 00:27:03,486 - Could I talk to Mr. Clawson, please? - One moment, please. 418 00:27:03,575 --> 00:27:04,856 Thank you. 419 00:27:05,452 --> 00:27:07,361 When she came back she said she didn't even know... 420 00:27:07,454 --> 00:27:09,910 - Ken Clawson. - Mr. Clawson, this is Bob Woodward. 421 00:27:09,998 --> 00:27:12,536 Carl Bernstein of the Washington Post had a conversation... 422 00:27:12,626 --> 00:27:14,120 with a White House librarian... 423 00:27:14,211 --> 00:27:17,662 on some books a Mr. Howard Hunt took out on Senator Edward Kennedy. 424 00:27:17,756 --> 00:27:21,172 She first said that Howard Hunt had taken out books on Senator Kennedy... 425 00:27:21,260 --> 00:27:23,502 and then she denied even knowing who he was. 426 00:27:23,595 --> 00:27:26,431 I was wondering if you'd like to comment on this confusion. 427 00:27:26,515 --> 00:27:28,757 Listen, let me call you back on this matter. 428 00:27:28,851 --> 00:27:31,721 - I'm going to check on it for you. - All right, thank you. Bye. 429 00:27:31,812 --> 00:27:33,092 - Call back? - Yes. 430 00:27:33,188 --> 00:27:35,228 - This was all one conversation? - Yeah. 431 00:27:35,316 --> 00:27:38,316 She says first of all, "I think I got a bunch of books on Hunt." 432 00:27:38,402 --> 00:27:41,486 She comes back five seconds later, she says, "I don't even know a Mr. Hunt." 433 00:27:41,572 --> 00:27:42,734 It's obvious someone got to her. 434 00:27:42,823 --> 00:27:45,279 Not enough proof. I mean, if there was just a piece of paper... 435 00:27:45,367 --> 00:27:48,452 that said that Hunt was taking out books on Kennedy and Chappaquiddick. 436 00:27:48,537 --> 00:27:50,245 Like a... I don't know, library slip. 437 00:27:50,331 --> 00:27:52,323 Hunt also took out books from the Library of Congress... 438 00:27:52,416 --> 00:27:55,583 but what's more important is that somebody got to her in that space of time. 439 00:27:55,669 --> 00:27:58,243 - How do you know somebody got to her? - Because she said that Hunt... 440 00:27:58,339 --> 00:28:00,165 There was a lot of books that Hunt checked out. 441 00:28:00,257 --> 00:28:02,250 And then she comes back and she don't even know him. 442 00:28:02,343 --> 00:28:05,260 - Woodward. - Mr. Woodward, Ken Clawson calling back. 443 00:28:05,346 --> 00:28:08,216 - I've just talked with the librarian. - Yes, sir. 444 00:28:08,307 --> 00:28:12,554 She denies that the conversation with Mr. Bernstein ever took place. 445 00:28:12,645 --> 00:28:15,017 She said she referred him to the Press Office. 446 00:28:15,105 --> 00:28:17,145 Excuse me, I'm sorry, you say she denies even knowing... 447 00:28:17,233 --> 00:28:18,941 about the conversation taking place? 448 00:28:19,026 --> 00:28:23,902 That's right. She said someone did call her asking about Mr. Hunt... 449 00:28:23,989 --> 00:28:26,777 but all she did was refer him to the Press Office... 450 00:28:26,867 --> 00:28:28,065 and she denies that... 451 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,532 - any other conversation took place. - Total bullshit. 452 00:28:30,621 --> 00:28:33,824 - I hope that's been of some help to you. - Thank you. 453 00:28:37,545 --> 00:28:40,996 - We've got to get something on paper. - The Library of Congress. 454 00:28:42,967 --> 00:28:44,046 Mona? 455 00:28:44,468 --> 00:28:46,959 Excuse me, Mona, could you take any calls for me, please? 456 00:28:47,054 --> 00:28:48,714 - Sure. - Here's my note. 457 00:28:49,682 --> 00:28:51,473 If I get any calls... 458 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,133 - Will you be back later? - I don't know when. 459 00:29:09,660 --> 00:29:12,827 You want all the material requested by the White House? 460 00:29:13,372 --> 00:29:16,124 All White House transactions are confidential. 461 00:29:17,251 --> 00:29:19,244 Thank you very much, gentlemen. 462 00:29:25,176 --> 00:29:28,794 - We need a sympathetic face. - We're not going to find one here. 463 00:29:29,180 --> 00:29:31,256 You want every request since when? 464 00:29:31,849 --> 00:29:33,925 - When did he start? - July of '71. 465 00:29:34,018 --> 00:29:36,011 I imagine the whole last year. 466 00:29:38,272 --> 00:29:41,024 I'm not sure you want them, but I've got them. 467 00:30:36,414 --> 00:30:38,371 Maybe they pulled the cards. 468 00:30:38,458 --> 00:30:39,833 Maybe they changed the names. 469 00:30:39,917 --> 00:30:42,954 There might have been a card there, and we missed it. 470 00:30:43,254 --> 00:30:44,748 Hey, wait a minute. 471 00:30:45,798 --> 00:30:48,752 I met a White House aide once at a social occasion. 472 00:30:48,843 --> 00:30:51,215 - So? - He might confirm. 473 00:30:53,431 --> 00:30:56,100 - Do we need W.H. In White House? - Not in the second paragraph. 474 00:30:56,184 --> 00:30:58,260 - I don't think we do. Do we? - White House will be enough. 475 00:30:58,353 --> 00:31:00,345 - White House. - Just use White House. Forget the W.H. 476 00:31:00,438 --> 00:31:02,929 I want to know about Colson. What was his job at the White House? 477 00:31:03,024 --> 00:31:06,025 - Special consultant to the President. - I gotta say it. 478 00:31:07,612 --> 00:31:11,028 These notes on the White House librarian, are they accurate? 479 00:31:12,450 --> 00:31:14,609 The White House librarian, the notes, are they accurate? 480 00:31:14,702 --> 00:31:16,494 Yeah, but I wanna hear him say it. 481 00:31:37,559 --> 00:31:40,310 - Okay, let's have it. - Here you are, Ben. 482 00:31:40,645 --> 00:31:43,218 It's a good, solid piece of American journalism... 483 00:31:43,314 --> 00:31:45,888 that the New York Times doesn't have. 484 00:32:09,883 --> 00:32:11,045 You haven't got it. 485 00:32:11,134 --> 00:32:13,340 A librarian and a secretary saying Hunt looked at a book. 486 00:32:13,428 --> 00:32:14,507 That's not good enough. 487 00:32:14,596 --> 00:32:17,846 A White House aide told me that Hunt was investigating Kennedy. 488 00:32:17,932 --> 00:32:19,095 Who was it? 489 00:32:19,809 --> 00:32:21,849 Who was it? You want the name, you mean? 490 00:32:21,936 --> 00:32:23,846 No, how senior, how high up? 491 00:32:24,189 --> 00:32:25,731 I don't know titles. 492 00:32:39,829 --> 00:32:41,074 "Showed a special interest." 493 00:32:41,164 --> 00:32:43,489 No, we said the White House was investigating Kennedy. 494 00:32:43,583 --> 00:32:45,291 "Showed a special interest in him." 495 00:32:45,377 --> 00:32:46,835 Jesus, the story's stronger than that. 496 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,375 The White House librarian says Hunt checked out a lot of books. 497 00:32:49,464 --> 00:32:52,169 We got a secretary in Colson's office said Hunt was sitting... 498 00:32:52,259 --> 00:32:55,462 All right, Carl. Ben, that's a Page 1 story. 499 00:32:56,888 --> 00:32:59,213 Stick it inside someplace. 500 00:33:00,392 --> 00:33:02,847 This is a goddamn important story. 501 00:33:08,358 --> 00:33:10,730 Get some harder information next time. 502 00:33:15,699 --> 00:33:18,700 Asshole. Bradlee's just sticking up for the Kennedys. 503 00:33:18,785 --> 00:33:20,778 - We didn't have it, that's all. - Bullshit. We had it cold. 504 00:33:20,871 --> 00:33:22,828 - No, we didn't. - Why didn't you say something? 505 00:33:22,914 --> 00:33:26,497 Do you think bitching about it is going to get the story where we want it? 506 00:33:27,669 --> 00:33:29,413 Throw it in the can. 507 00:34:00,702 --> 00:34:02,446 - Yes? - This is Woodward. 508 00:34:04,915 --> 00:34:07,453 I want to talk about Watergate. I know... 509 00:34:07,542 --> 00:34:10,116 We're not going to talk about that subject. 510 00:34:12,005 --> 00:34:15,006 - We talked about Wallace. - But this is different. 511 00:34:15,968 --> 00:34:19,301 That was about the shooting of a man running for President. 512 00:34:20,055 --> 00:34:22,048 - This is different. - How? 513 00:34:23,058 --> 00:34:25,929 Not about this story. Don't call me again. 514 00:35:51,730 --> 00:35:53,723 Good luck, Mr. President. 515 00:36:21,177 --> 00:36:22,291 Taxi. 516 00:37:58,941 --> 00:38:01,017 - Where are you? - Stuck. 517 00:38:01,986 --> 00:38:04,026 The story's stalled on us. 518 00:38:06,824 --> 00:38:08,864 And you thought I'd help? 519 00:38:11,871 --> 00:38:13,698 I'll never quote you. 520 00:38:15,583 --> 00:38:18,418 I wouldn't quote you even as an anonymous source. 521 00:38:18,503 --> 00:38:20,661 You'd be on deep background. 522 00:38:24,133 --> 00:38:26,292 You can trust me. You know that. 523 00:38:29,389 --> 00:38:30,551 Go on. 524 00:38:33,685 --> 00:38:36,888 - Can you tell me what you know? - You tell me what you know. 525 00:38:41,734 --> 00:38:44,569 Hunt worked for Colson at the White House. 526 00:38:45,613 --> 00:38:48,614 Hunt was investigating Kennedy at Chappaquiddick. 527 00:38:48,700 --> 00:38:50,823 That should tell you a lot. 528 00:38:50,910 --> 00:38:52,239 What else? 529 00:38:53,621 --> 00:38:57,749 We're beginning to hear a lot about a lawyer at CREEP named Gordon Liddy... 530 00:38:58,459 --> 00:38:59,740 who's... 531 00:39:12,974 --> 00:39:14,516 Gordon Liddy... 532 00:39:14,976 --> 00:39:18,594 was fired by Mitchell because he wouldn't talk to the FBI. 533 00:39:19,481 --> 00:39:22,054 - You'll hear more. - Will he talk? 534 00:39:27,572 --> 00:39:29,730 I was at a party once, and... 535 00:39:29,824 --> 00:39:33,573 Liddy put his hand over a candle, and he kept it there. 536 00:39:34,454 --> 00:39:38,072 He kept it right in the flame until his flesh was burned. 537 00:39:39,959 --> 00:39:44,253 Somebody said, "What's the trick?" And Liddy said, "The trick is not minding." 538 00:39:48,426 --> 00:39:50,051 The story is dry. 539 00:39:51,846 --> 00:39:54,219 All we've got are pieces. 540 00:39:54,307 --> 00:39:58,056 We can't seem to figure out what the puzzle is supposed to look like. 541 00:39:58,144 --> 00:40:00,682 John Mitchell resigns as the head of CREEP... 542 00:40:00,772 --> 00:40:03,607 and says that he wants to spend more time with his family. 543 00:40:03,692 --> 00:40:06,562 Sounds like bullshit. We don't exactly believe that. 544 00:40:06,653 --> 00:40:08,527 No, but it's touching. 545 00:40:11,700 --> 00:40:15,448 Forget the myths the media's created about the White House. 546 00:40:16,496 --> 00:40:19,283 The truth is, these are not very bright guys... 547 00:40:19,374 --> 00:40:21,450 and things got out of hand. 548 00:40:22,836 --> 00:40:25,042 Hunt's come in from the cold. 549 00:40:25,630 --> 00:40:30,173 Supposedly, he's got a lawyer with $25,000 in a brown paper bag. 550 00:40:30,260 --> 00:40:31,884 Follow the money. 551 00:40:34,181 --> 00:40:37,514 What do you mean? Where? 552 00:40:37,601 --> 00:40:39,427 I can't tell you that. 553 00:40:39,853 --> 00:40:41,976 But you could tell me that. 554 00:40:42,522 --> 00:40:44,764 No, I have to do this my way. 555 00:40:45,066 --> 00:40:48,186 You tell me what you know and I'll confirm. 556 00:40:48,779 --> 00:40:52,610 I'll keep you in the right direction if I can, but that's all. 557 00:40:56,036 --> 00:40:58,112 Just follow the money. 558 00:41:09,091 --> 00:41:11,878 - Goddamn New York Times. - What is it? 559 00:41:13,553 --> 00:41:17,337 Phone calls from burglars in Miami to the Committee to Re-Elect. 560 00:41:20,769 --> 00:41:22,311 Fifteen phone calls. 561 00:41:22,396 --> 00:41:26,310 At least 15 phone calls and those phone calls were made as early as March 15... 562 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,357 which is a full three months before the break-in. 563 00:41:28,443 --> 00:41:31,777 "$89,000 issued in the name of a prominent Mexican lawyer." 564 00:41:31,863 --> 00:41:34,354 $89,000 in Mexican checks? 565 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,109 Why didn't we get this? 566 00:41:37,869 --> 00:41:39,198 Who are their sources? 567 00:41:39,288 --> 00:41:42,538 I even know someone who works at the phone company. 568 00:41:42,874 --> 00:41:45,366 Carl, if John Mitchell wanted your phone records... 569 00:41:45,460 --> 00:41:47,786 you'd be running around yelling invasion of privacy. 570 00:41:47,879 --> 00:41:49,422 Was the New York Times article accurate? 571 00:41:49,506 --> 00:41:52,258 - Yeah, but I can't get you a fuller listing. - Why? 572 00:41:52,342 --> 00:41:54,714 They've subpoenaed all of Bernard Barker's phone records. 573 00:41:54,803 --> 00:41:59,382 I think they're trying to find out if the Watergate burglars broke any Florida law. 574 00:42:00,475 --> 00:42:02,717 - Who subpoenaed them? - Miami DA. 575 00:42:02,811 --> 00:42:04,720 - What's his name? - I don't know his name. 576 00:42:04,813 --> 00:42:07,767 But, the guy who's heading the investigation is named Dardis. 577 00:42:07,858 --> 00:42:09,850 Dardis. What's his first name? 578 00:42:10,527 --> 00:42:14,228 I don't know his first name. I guess you'll have to find that out. 579 00:42:21,371 --> 00:42:24,575 Hi. I'm Carl Bernstein, I have a 9:15 appointment with Mr. Dardis. 580 00:42:24,666 --> 00:42:27,039 Yes, Mr. Bernstein, I'm afraid that Mr. Dardis... 581 00:42:27,127 --> 00:42:28,586 won't be able to see you this morning. 582 00:42:28,670 --> 00:42:30,046 His calendar is really quite full. 583 00:42:30,130 --> 00:42:32,752 There must be a mistake. I made the appointment with him personally. 584 00:42:32,841 --> 00:42:35,415 - I called from Washington. - It should've been made through me. 585 00:42:35,511 --> 00:42:37,883 If you care to wait, I'll see if I can squeeze you in later. 586 00:42:37,971 --> 00:42:39,763 Oh, thanks very much. 587 00:42:41,058 --> 00:42:44,890 I guess it's difficult when he makes his own appointments. 588 00:42:45,270 --> 00:42:47,596 Yes, well, we try to handle it. 589 00:42:56,198 --> 00:42:59,781 It's 4:00, we'll be back in 15 minutes. You want anything? 590 00:42:59,868 --> 00:43:01,778 - Coffee, black. - Coffee, black. 591 00:43:07,376 --> 00:43:08,918 I'm still here. 592 00:43:09,336 --> 00:43:10,451 I'm so glad. 593 00:43:10,546 --> 00:43:13,630 If you could just get me in to see him for five minutes, I'd appreciate it. 594 00:43:13,716 --> 00:43:16,467 - No, Mr. Bernstein. - I have to get back. 595 00:43:16,635 --> 00:43:18,379 We're going to try. 596 00:43:21,140 --> 00:43:23,216 Oh, hi. He's expecting you. 597 00:43:28,981 --> 00:43:33,560 I do have a couple of things to do. I'll be at the Sheraton if you want to reach me. 598 00:43:33,652 --> 00:43:36,819 If he has any space tomorrow, I'd appreciate it. Number's on the back. 599 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,113 - Fine. - Thank you for your patience. 600 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,485 Thank you, Mr. Bernstein. Tomorrow it should be better. 601 00:43:42,578 --> 00:43:43,953 I guess so. 602 00:43:48,334 --> 00:43:49,744 Mr. Dardis' office. 603 00:43:49,835 --> 00:43:53,536 Hi. Please tell Mr. Dardis that Mr. Bernstein has just left. 604 00:43:53,631 --> 00:43:55,789 He'll be available all day tomorrow. 605 00:43:55,883 --> 00:43:58,800 I think we can probably squeeze him in around 4:30. 606 00:43:58,886 --> 00:44:00,001 Yes. 607 00:44:00,096 --> 00:44:04,176 And please tell Mr. Dardis that he doesn't want to be late for his 6:30 appointment. 608 00:44:04,266 --> 00:44:06,010 - Yes, I will. - Thank you. 609 00:44:14,068 --> 00:44:15,183 Mr. Dardis' office. 610 00:44:15,277 --> 00:44:17,685 - This is Mr. Martinson over at the County... - I beg your pardon? 611 00:44:17,780 --> 00:44:19,440 Martinson, over at the County Clerk's office. 612 00:44:19,532 --> 00:44:21,524 There's some records here that Dardis wanted right away. 613 00:44:21,617 --> 00:44:23,693 Could you come and get them? We're closing. 614 00:44:23,786 --> 00:44:25,695 Well, yes, I'll be right over. 615 00:44:50,980 --> 00:44:54,183 Could be easier, too. All right. Hold it. 616 00:44:54,275 --> 00:44:56,314 - What? - Excuse me. 617 00:44:56,402 --> 00:44:57,944 Hi. Can I help you in some way? 618 00:44:58,029 --> 00:44:59,902 I'm Carl Bernstein. I've been waiting since 9:00. 619 00:44:59,989 --> 00:45:02,278 - Would you wait outside? - I've been waiting out since morning. 620 00:45:02,366 --> 00:45:04,774 - Go ahead. Finish your call. - Wait outside, please, will you? 621 00:45:04,869 --> 00:45:07,360 No. I'm the reporter from the Washington Post. 622 00:45:07,455 --> 00:45:09,115 We talked on the telephone yesterday... 623 00:45:09,207 --> 00:45:11,199 and you told me to come on down here and I'm here. 624 00:45:11,292 --> 00:45:14,293 Okay, yeah. I've got the press here. I'm gonna have to call you back. 625 00:45:14,378 --> 00:45:16,418 If you didn't want to see me I don't know why the hell... 626 00:45:16,506 --> 00:45:18,130 you didn't tell me when I was in Washington? 627 00:45:18,216 --> 00:45:21,086 I just wasted a whole goddamned day here. My paper's waiting for a story. 628 00:45:21,177 --> 00:45:23,929 You tell me yesterday to come here. You said I got a 9:30 appointment. 629 00:45:24,013 --> 00:45:27,299 - I've been waiting out here the whole day. - Caught me on the worst day possible. 630 00:45:27,391 --> 00:45:29,598 The man I work for has just started a re-election campaign. 631 00:45:29,685 --> 00:45:32,093 Now, we're gonna have to see each other tomorrow. Okay? 632 00:45:32,188 --> 00:45:34,940 No, sir, I'm facing a deadline and my paper's saving a space for me. 633 00:45:35,024 --> 00:45:37,978 - I just don't have a minute now. - Well, I'm sorry... 634 00:45:38,569 --> 00:45:41,404 Mr. Dardis, I'm really very sorry about this. Mr. Bernstein... 635 00:45:41,489 --> 00:45:43,446 I beg your pardon, ma'am, but this gentleman... 636 00:45:43,533 --> 00:45:45,193 made the appointment with me specifically. 637 00:45:45,284 --> 00:45:47,573 And I think the Washington Post deserves the same courtesy... 638 00:45:47,662 --> 00:45:49,951 as any of the people waiting out there, with all due respect. 639 00:45:50,039 --> 00:45:52,281 I'll buzz you in about five minutes. 640 00:45:54,127 --> 00:45:56,119 The lady takes good care of me. 641 00:45:57,296 --> 00:45:59,966 The fact is we just can't go into it this evening. 642 00:46:00,049 --> 00:46:01,876 It's going to have to wait till tomorrow. Okay? 643 00:46:01,968 --> 00:46:03,960 I just wish you could've told me that before I left... 644 00:46:04,053 --> 00:46:06,461 because I gotta go back to my paper now and write that story... 645 00:46:06,556 --> 00:46:08,513 one way or another, that's all. 646 00:46:11,728 --> 00:46:15,476 Do you want to see Mr. Barker's phone records and his money records? 647 00:46:15,565 --> 00:46:18,981 You told me on the phone if I'd come here you'd show everything you got on Barker. 648 00:46:19,068 --> 00:46:21,642 - That's all I want. - Well, that's what I've got. 649 00:46:21,738 --> 00:46:22,936 Well, that's fine. 650 00:46:23,031 --> 00:46:25,237 Okay, you and I are going to have to have an agreement... 651 00:46:25,325 --> 00:46:28,824 that you're not going to reveal the source of your information. 652 00:46:28,912 --> 00:46:33,455 All these are cashier's checks on a bank in Mexico City. 653 00:46:33,541 --> 00:46:35,333 - All these checks from Mexico? - Sí. 654 00:46:35,418 --> 00:46:37,494 How come? Did the money originate there? 655 00:46:37,587 --> 00:46:40,078 Well, I doubt it started off as pesos. 656 00:46:41,508 --> 00:46:43,168 Wait a minute, what's this one? 657 00:46:43,259 --> 00:46:45,501 What's... Okay, $25,000. 658 00:46:45,595 --> 00:46:47,753 - Who's that? - Kenneth H. Dahlberg. 659 00:46:47,847 --> 00:46:50,054 We haven't been able to ascertain who that is. 660 00:46:50,475 --> 00:46:52,551 Bob, listen, I think I got something. I don't know what it is. 661 00:46:52,644 --> 00:46:54,850 But somewhere in this world there's a Kenneth H. Dahlberg. 662 00:46:54,938 --> 00:46:57,179 And we've got to get to him before the New York Times does. 663 00:46:57,273 --> 00:46:59,065 Because I think they have the same information. 664 00:46:59,150 --> 00:47:00,644 Got a pencil? Write this down. Quick. 665 00:47:00,735 --> 00:47:04,318 Kenneth H. Dahlberg. D-A-H-L-B-E-R-G. 666 00:47:05,740 --> 00:47:08,860 McGovern, who at first had voiced complete support for Eagleton... 667 00:47:08,952 --> 00:47:10,909 has more recently expressed doubts... 668 00:47:10,995 --> 00:47:13,321 and said that Eagleton must make a decision... 669 00:47:13,415 --> 00:47:15,787 whether to stay or leave the ticket. 670 00:47:17,043 --> 00:47:18,835 You're the one that wanted the articles... 671 00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:20,545 - on Dahlberg, Kenneth H. Dahlberg? - Yeah. 672 00:47:20,630 --> 00:47:22,539 Couldn't find anything in the clip file at all. 673 00:47:22,632 --> 00:47:24,126 Oh, wonderful. 674 00:47:25,051 --> 00:47:28,136 I did find one picture though, if it's any help. 675 00:47:30,557 --> 00:47:31,719 Thanks. 676 00:47:37,689 --> 00:47:39,064 Minnesota. 677 00:47:44,696 --> 00:47:46,071 Minneapolis... 678 00:48:02,339 --> 00:48:07,084 I base that conclusion upon my conversations with his doctors... 679 00:48:08,053 --> 00:48:11,303 and my close personal and political association... 680 00:48:11,765 --> 00:48:13,592 - Outside line, please. - Yes. 681 00:48:13,892 --> 00:48:15,434 - Thank you. ...the joint decision... 682 00:48:15,519 --> 00:48:19,848 that we have reached tonight, health would not affect. 683 00:48:20,315 --> 00:48:22,308 But the public debate... 684 00:48:22,692 --> 00:48:25,777 over Senator Eagleton's past medical history... 685 00:48:26,321 --> 00:48:30,271 continues to divert attention from the great national issues... 686 00:48:30,367 --> 00:48:32,443 that need to be discussed. 687 00:48:33,245 --> 00:48:36,945 I have referred to the growing pressures that ask... 688 00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,448 for Senator Eagleton's withdrawal. 689 00:48:40,836 --> 00:48:41,998 Hello? 690 00:48:42,462 --> 00:48:44,621 - Could I please... Mr. Dahlberg? - Yes. 691 00:48:44,714 --> 00:48:46,837 - Kenneth Dahlberg? - Yes. 692 00:48:47,634 --> 00:48:50,552 This is Bob Woodward of the Washington Post. 693 00:48:51,805 --> 00:48:54,296 - Yes? - About that $25,000 check... 694 00:48:54,391 --> 00:48:57,143 deposited in the bank account of one of the Watergate burglars... 695 00:48:57,227 --> 00:48:59,101 Mr. Bernard Barker... 696 00:49:01,481 --> 00:49:04,601 As you know, sir, the check has your name on it. 697 00:49:05,235 --> 00:49:06,860 We were doing a story on this... 698 00:49:06,945 --> 00:49:10,361 and I was wondering if you would care to comment or explain? 699 00:49:10,699 --> 00:49:13,534 I turn all my money over to the Committee. 700 00:49:13,994 --> 00:49:16,781 What committee is that, sir? The Committee to Re-Elect? 701 00:49:16,872 --> 00:49:19,244 - Yes. - Why would you do that? 702 00:49:20,417 --> 00:49:25,162 I raise a lot of money. I'm Midwest Finance Chairman. 703 00:49:25,756 --> 00:49:27,998 For the Committee to Re-Elect? 704 00:49:28,508 --> 00:49:30,584 - Hello? - Yes, that's right. 705 00:49:31,178 --> 00:49:35,176 How do you think your check got into the bank account of the Watergate burglar? 706 00:49:35,265 --> 00:49:39,643 I'm a proper citizen. What I do is proper. 707 00:49:40,395 --> 00:49:41,771 Oh, I understand. 708 00:49:41,855 --> 00:49:44,560 I've just been through a terrible ordeal. 709 00:49:44,650 --> 00:49:47,022 My neighbor's wife has been kidnapped. 710 00:49:47,694 --> 00:49:51,395 How do you think your check got into Barker's account list? 711 00:50:25,232 --> 00:50:28,399 - Committee to Re-Elect the President. - Could I speak to Mr. Clark MacGregor? 712 00:50:28,485 --> 00:50:30,976 - One moment, I'll connect you. - Thank you. 713 00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:33,354 Yes? 714 00:50:33,449 --> 00:50:34,647 - Mr. MacGregor? - Yes. 715 00:50:34,742 --> 00:50:37,612 This is Bob Woodward of the Washington Post. 716 00:50:38,287 --> 00:50:39,781 - Hello? - Yes. 717 00:50:39,872 --> 00:50:42,327 This is Bob Woodward of the Washington Post. 718 00:50:42,416 --> 00:50:44,574 I just spoke to a Mr. Kenneth Dahlberg... 719 00:50:44,668 --> 00:50:46,412 who says that he is Midwest Finance Chairman. 720 00:50:46,503 --> 00:50:48,543 Yeah, I know Ken Dahlberg. 721 00:50:48,964 --> 00:50:51,586 Well, I can't seem to get an explanation on why a check... 722 00:50:51,675 --> 00:50:54,083 for $25,000 made out to Mr. Dahlberg... 723 00:50:54,178 --> 00:50:56,929 that he apparently sent to the Committee to Re-Elect the President... 724 00:50:57,014 --> 00:50:59,090 would end up in the bank account of a Watergate burglar. 725 00:50:59,183 --> 00:51:00,262 I don't know. 726 00:51:00,351 --> 00:51:02,924 - But you're head of the Committee, sir. - Look, I just came aboard. 727 00:51:03,020 --> 00:51:05,226 John Mitchell was the head of the Committee. He might know. 728 00:51:05,314 --> 00:51:07,057 Well, what would the explanation possibly be... 729 00:51:07,149 --> 00:51:08,228 I don't know. 730 00:51:08,317 --> 00:51:10,191 You're implying that I should know... 731 00:51:10,277 --> 00:51:13,480 and if you print that, our relationship will be terminated. 732 00:51:14,615 --> 00:51:16,109 Sir, we don't have a relationship. 733 00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,284 The issues of the campaign are peace and prosperity... 734 00:51:19,370 --> 00:51:21,030 not a campaign check. 735 00:51:21,288 --> 00:51:23,495 - Bob. - Sir, no one is saying... 736 00:51:23,582 --> 00:51:26,287 ...this happened before I came on board. - Mr. Dahlberg is on line 2. 737 00:51:26,377 --> 00:51:28,619 I'm running a campaign for the re-election of the President. 738 00:51:28,712 --> 00:51:32,461 We've raised $60 million and you're asking about a $25,000 check. 739 00:51:32,550 --> 00:51:35,301 Mr. MacGregor, excuse me, could you hold one second, please? 740 00:51:35,386 --> 00:51:37,177 - All right. - Thank you. Yes? 741 00:51:37,471 --> 00:51:38,882 - Hello. - Mr. Dahlberg? 742 00:51:38,973 --> 00:51:40,515 - Yes? - Could you please hold one second, sir? 743 00:51:40,599 --> 00:51:41,797 - Yes. - Thank you. 744 00:51:41,892 --> 00:51:43,055 - Mr. MacGregor? - Yeah? 745 00:51:43,144 --> 00:51:45,053 Can I call you right back, sir? I'm very sorry. 746 00:51:45,146 --> 00:51:46,640 - Yeah, okay. - Mr. Dahlberg. 747 00:51:46,730 --> 00:51:49,981 Yes. I'm sorry I hung up before. 748 00:51:50,067 --> 00:51:53,234 I wasn't sure you were a Washington Post reporter. 749 00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:56,405 I believe we were talking about a $25,000 check. 750 00:51:57,783 --> 00:52:00,453 Obviously this is difficult for me. 751 00:52:01,245 --> 00:52:04,163 I'm caught in the middle of something and... 752 00:52:04,874 --> 00:52:06,498 I don't know what. 753 00:52:06,917 --> 00:52:09,159 What do you think it could be? 754 00:52:09,670 --> 00:52:11,746 I deal with a lot of important people. 755 00:52:11,839 --> 00:52:13,915 People who work for the Committee? Hello? 756 00:52:14,008 --> 00:52:15,502 For the Committee. 757 00:52:15,593 --> 00:52:18,131 - The Committee to Re-Elect the President? - Yes. 758 00:52:18,220 --> 00:52:21,008 You see, I raised that money in cash... 759 00:52:21,098 --> 00:52:23,636 and I have a winter home in Florida. 760 00:52:23,726 --> 00:52:26,846 - Is that Miami? - Boca Raton... 761 00:52:27,271 --> 00:52:29,809 and I didn't want to carry all that cash around. 762 00:52:29,899 --> 00:52:32,520 - Now, you can understand that. - Of course I can. 763 00:52:32,610 --> 00:52:35,397 So, I had it exchanged for the cashier's check. 764 00:52:35,488 --> 00:52:38,691 And how do you think it got into Barker's account? 765 00:52:40,618 --> 00:52:43,453 I know I shouldn't be telling you this... 766 00:52:45,998 --> 00:52:48,668 I gave it to Mr. Stans. 767 00:52:51,921 --> 00:52:53,380 I beg your pardon? 768 00:52:53,881 --> 00:52:55,708 I gave it to Stans. 769 00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:57,294 Maurice Stans? 770 00:52:57,802 --> 00:53:01,087 - The head of finance for Nixon? - Yes, in Washington. 771 00:53:01,180 --> 00:53:04,881 Now what he did with it, I really do not know. 772 00:53:05,226 --> 00:53:09,010 I see. Were there any other checks that you might be aware of, that could... 773 00:53:09,105 --> 00:53:11,347 That's all I have to say. 774 00:53:12,483 --> 00:53:15,270 Mr. MacGregor... Mr. Dahlberg... 775 00:53:15,820 --> 00:53:17,859 I'm sorry. Thank you very much. 776 00:53:35,256 --> 00:53:36,371 - Bob? - Yeah. 777 00:53:36,466 --> 00:53:39,253 - Carl Bernstein on line 1. - One? 778 00:53:40,303 --> 00:53:41,382 - Yeah? - Woodward? 779 00:53:41,471 --> 00:53:43,262 - Bernstein. - I think I got a lead on Dahlberg. 780 00:53:43,348 --> 00:53:44,842 - I just... I got it. - What? 781 00:53:44,932 --> 00:53:46,592 I just talked to him. I just hung up from him. 782 00:53:46,684 --> 00:53:48,428 Bernstein, listen, it goes all the way to Stans! 783 00:53:48,519 --> 00:53:50,595 - What're you talking about? - It goes all the way to Stans. 784 00:53:50,688 --> 00:53:52,930 He gave the check to Stans for the Committee to Re-Elect! 785 00:53:53,024 --> 00:53:56,025 - Did he say that? - He said it. I've got it in my notes. 786 00:53:56,110 --> 00:53:57,770 - Jesus. - It's down on record, Bernstein. 787 00:53:57,862 --> 00:54:00,614 That money winds up in the bank account of a Watergate burglar? 788 00:54:00,698 --> 00:54:02,607 - Yes! - Fantastic. I'm coming home. 789 00:54:02,700 --> 00:54:03,779 Okay. 790 00:54:05,411 --> 00:54:08,780 ... catapulted the unknown Senator from Missouri into national prominence... 791 00:54:08,873 --> 00:54:10,451 by naming Eagleton as his running mate. 792 00:54:15,463 --> 00:54:17,420 ... bolstering of support for the Democratic ticket... 793 00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,462 Scott, what happened with that Taiwan thing you were telling us about? 794 00:54:20,552 --> 00:54:23,007 Japan is going to break diplomatic ties with Taiwan... 795 00:54:23,096 --> 00:54:24,720 when they recognize Red China. 796 00:54:24,806 --> 00:54:27,593 The irony, of course, that's a direct result of Nixon's visit to China. 797 00:54:27,684 --> 00:54:29,723 Jesus, what did he tell them? What did he say to them? 798 00:54:29,811 --> 00:54:32,136 Incidentally, that's a great parallel story... 799 00:54:32,230 --> 00:54:34,982 if you're going to do that piece on détente. 800 00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:37,689 Right, "Queen Elizabeth proclaims a state of emergency... 801 00:54:37,777 --> 00:54:39,936 "to deal with what we call a 'dock strike."' 802 00:54:40,029 --> 00:54:41,358 Breaking it off... 803 00:54:42,907 --> 00:54:44,615 I'll give you a human interest. 804 00:54:44,701 --> 00:54:46,693 "Thirty-one days of rain in the Philippines... 805 00:54:46,786 --> 00:54:49,242 "is being blamed on the theft of a statue of Jesus." 806 00:54:49,330 --> 00:54:51,157 We had one like that before. 807 00:54:53,293 --> 00:54:56,459 - I'll put my best writer on that. - What about the one in India? 808 00:54:56,755 --> 00:54:59,709 Laugh, gentlemen, it'll be the only story everyone reads. 809 00:54:59,799 --> 00:55:00,962 Okay, National? 810 00:55:01,051 --> 00:55:04,502 We have the Bremer diary. "Wish to kill Nixon." 811 00:55:04,596 --> 00:55:08,214 He took a car trip to New York, Ottawa, and Washington to kill him. 812 00:55:08,975 --> 00:55:11,976 We have the "Senate approving the ABM Treaty." 813 00:55:12,312 --> 00:55:13,426 ABM. 814 00:55:13,521 --> 00:55:16,558 Of course, we have "McGovern offering the VP spot..." 815 00:55:16,650 --> 00:55:18,144 to everybody. 816 00:55:18,234 --> 00:55:19,563 - Yeah, that's news. - I have... 817 00:55:19,653 --> 00:55:21,028 Because everybody's been offered it. 818 00:55:21,112 --> 00:55:25,192 Now, I'll tell you what will be news. When somebody accepts it. That's news. 819 00:55:25,492 --> 00:55:27,401 Here is some great art. 820 00:55:28,244 --> 00:55:32,159 McGovern and Humphrey at breakfast, smiling their asses off. 821 00:55:32,248 --> 00:55:33,873 Isn't that great? 822 00:55:34,334 --> 00:55:37,833 - He says, "I am George's friend..." - Why is that man smiling? 823 00:55:38,713 --> 00:55:40,373 Sounds friendly. Very friendly. 824 00:55:40,465 --> 00:55:43,336 "I'll be helping him in ways he never dreamed possible." 825 00:55:43,426 --> 00:55:45,218 Breakfast followed by lunch. 826 00:55:47,305 --> 00:55:48,550 Okay. Metro? 827 00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,096 Well, we got the schoolteachers on Capitol Hill. 828 00:55:51,184 --> 00:55:55,396 They want a 17% increase in pay or this fall they go on strike. 829 00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,600 Harry, I think we could mention that this might be the time... 830 00:55:58,692 --> 00:56:01,230 to go to the front page on the district home rule. 831 00:56:01,319 --> 00:56:03,193 - Oh, come on! - Listen to him. 832 00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:06,150 Ben, this time it could go all the way. 833 00:56:06,241 --> 00:56:09,242 The House is going to vote next week on a Senate resolution. 834 00:56:09,327 --> 00:56:11,818 Okay then, well, when they pass it, we'll run with it. 835 00:56:11,913 --> 00:56:14,321 Okay, fellas, let's go around again now. Foreign? 836 00:56:14,875 --> 00:56:16,583 Taiwan emergency, Philippines. 837 00:56:16,668 --> 00:56:18,043 Okay, fine. National? 838 00:56:18,128 --> 00:56:19,705 I'll stand on the Eagleton follow-ups... 839 00:56:19,796 --> 00:56:21,540 McGovern not being able to get a replacement. 840 00:56:21,631 --> 00:56:24,502 He's offered it to Humphrey, Kennedy, and Ribicoff. All turned him down. 841 00:56:24,593 --> 00:56:25,873 That's the Page 1 lead right there. 842 00:56:25,969 --> 00:56:28,721 You're ignoring the importance of the Dahlberg repercussions. 843 00:56:28,805 --> 00:56:31,012 Nobody cares about the Dahlberg repercussions. 844 00:56:31,099 --> 00:56:33,721 Now look, it was our story that got the General Accounting Office... 845 00:56:33,810 --> 00:56:35,803 to start an audit with CREEP Finance. 846 00:56:35,896 --> 00:56:39,395 We printed that didn't we? When the frigging audit's done, we'll print that, too. 847 00:56:39,483 --> 00:56:41,356 Let me tell you what happened today. 848 00:56:41,443 --> 00:56:44,016 I was having lunch at the Sans Souci, and... 849 00:56:46,657 --> 00:56:48,733 this White House guy, a good one, a pro... 850 00:56:48,825 --> 00:56:52,241 came up and asked me, "What is this Watergate compulsion with you guys?" 851 00:56:52,329 --> 00:56:55,579 Compulsion? This is a story. This is not compulsion. 852 00:56:55,874 --> 00:56:58,330 I said, "Well, we think it's important." And he said: 853 00:56:58,418 --> 00:57:02,250 "If it's so goddamn important, who in the hell are Woodward and Bernstein?" 854 00:57:02,339 --> 00:57:04,415 Now, what do you expect him to say from the White House? 855 00:57:04,508 --> 00:57:05,836 "You're doing a great job"? 856 00:57:05,926 --> 00:57:08,417 Why don't you ask him what he's really saying? 857 00:57:08,512 --> 00:57:10,884 He wants to take the story away from Woodstein and... 858 00:57:10,973 --> 00:57:13,096 - give it to his National desk. - At least I have... 859 00:57:13,183 --> 00:57:15,757 some experienced guys sitting around who know the politicians... 860 00:57:15,852 --> 00:57:18,011 - who have the contacts. - We're aware of that. 861 00:57:18,146 --> 00:57:19,854 You said it. Sitting around. 862 00:57:20,774 --> 00:57:23,395 Ben, it's a dangerous story for this paper. 863 00:57:24,152 --> 00:57:27,403 - What if your boys get it wrong? - Then it's our ass, isn't it? 864 00:57:27,489 --> 00:57:29,945 We all have to go out and work for a living. 865 00:57:30,784 --> 00:57:32,777 National gets eight columns. 866 00:57:32,870 --> 00:57:34,494 Nine for Foreign. 867 00:57:34,955 --> 00:57:36,782 Metro, 15. 868 00:57:37,791 --> 00:57:39,285 That's it, fellas. 869 00:57:43,630 --> 00:57:45,789 Hey, Scott, I need to see you. 870 00:57:48,051 --> 00:57:49,083 How dangerous? 871 00:57:54,412 --> 00:57:58,326 Well, it's not just that we're using unnamed sources that bothers me... 872 00:57:58,416 --> 00:58:01,832 or that everything we print, the White House denies... 873 00:58:02,253 --> 00:58:05,503 or that almost no other papers are reprinting our stuff. 874 00:58:05,590 --> 00:58:06,918 What then? 875 00:58:07,383 --> 00:58:09,839 Look, there are over 2,000 reporters in this town... 876 00:58:09,928 --> 00:58:12,051 are there five on Watergate? 877 00:58:12,847 --> 00:58:16,465 Where did the Washington Post suddenly get the monopoly on wisdom? 878 00:58:17,644 --> 00:58:19,636 Why would the Republicans do it? 879 00:58:20,271 --> 00:58:24,518 McGovern is self-destructing, just like Humphrey, Muskie, the bunch of them. 880 00:58:26,694 --> 00:58:28,521 I don't believe their story. 881 00:58:29,697 --> 00:58:31,571 It doesn't make sense. 882 00:58:33,743 --> 00:58:35,072 Yeah, Bernstein. 883 00:58:35,912 --> 00:58:37,490 Now? All right. 884 00:58:37,914 --> 00:58:40,452 Woodward, Bradlee will see us now. 885 00:58:40,542 --> 00:58:42,000 Answer the phone for me, will you? 886 00:58:42,085 --> 00:58:45,252 Are you trying to find the lowest possible common denominator... 887 00:59:04,232 --> 00:59:05,691 Ben, it's the hottest item. 888 00:59:05,775 --> 00:59:07,400 - It's in over 500 papers. - What is it? 889 00:59:07,485 --> 00:59:09,525 Yesterday's weather report for people who were drunk... 890 00:59:09,612 --> 00:59:10,857 and slept all day. 891 00:59:10,947 --> 00:59:12,062 Jesus! Send it out... 892 00:59:12,157 --> 00:59:13,948 to the San Francisco Chronicle. They need it. 893 00:59:14,034 --> 00:59:15,409 - How about the crossword puzzle? - No. 894 00:59:15,493 --> 00:59:16,774 Anagrams? 895 00:59:17,495 --> 00:59:19,453 - No space, Mickey. - Goodbye. 896 00:59:19,789 --> 00:59:22,245 The last thing you bought from me was the obituaries. 897 00:59:22,334 --> 00:59:24,207 - Make him buy something, will you? - All right. 898 00:59:24,294 --> 00:59:25,753 Hey, what do you guys want? 899 00:59:25,837 --> 00:59:28,838 The GAO report's due out the morning of Nixon's renomination. 900 00:59:28,924 --> 00:59:30,252 Sit down. 901 00:59:30,759 --> 00:59:32,917 Well, that's two weeks from now. 902 00:59:33,678 --> 00:59:35,470 Since they're only responsible to Congress... 903 00:59:35,555 --> 00:59:38,473 there's no way the White House can control the investigation. 904 00:59:38,558 --> 00:59:40,883 There's a source over at General Accounting that tells us... 905 00:59:40,977 --> 00:59:44,429 there's a whole rat's nest of illegal shit going on over at CREEP. 906 00:59:44,523 --> 00:59:46,349 - Like what? - Like a slush fund. 907 00:59:46,441 --> 00:59:49,110 Hundreds of thousands of dollars of unaccounted-for cash. 908 00:59:49,194 --> 00:59:50,771 Hundreds of thousands of dollars? 909 00:59:50,862 --> 00:59:52,107 Any comment from CREEP? 910 00:59:52,197 --> 00:59:54,522 Yes. Unavailable for comment. They're not talking. 911 00:59:54,616 --> 00:59:58,067 But what else besides the money? Where's the goddamn story? 912 00:59:59,996 --> 01:00:01,954 The money's the key to whatever this is. 913 01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:03,582 - Says who? - Deep Throat. 914 01:00:03,667 --> 01:00:05,873 - Who? - Oh, that's Woodward's garage freak... 915 01:00:05,961 --> 01:00:07,585 his source in the executive... 916 01:00:07,671 --> 01:00:11,419 Garage freak? Jesus, what kind of a crazy, fucking story is this? 917 01:00:12,050 --> 01:00:13,461 Who did you say? 918 01:00:15,804 --> 01:00:19,303 He's on deep background. I call him "Deep Throat." 919 01:00:20,517 --> 01:00:22,474 Look, McGovern's dropped to nothing... 920 01:00:22,561 --> 01:00:24,470 Nixon's guaranteed the renomination... 921 01:00:24,563 --> 01:00:26,602 and the Post is stuck with a story no one else wants. 922 01:00:26,690 --> 01:00:28,267 It'll sink the goddamn paper. 923 01:00:28,358 --> 01:00:30,814 Everyone says, "Get off it, Ben." And I come on very sage... 924 01:00:30,902 --> 01:00:33,738 and I say, "You'll see. You wait till this bottoms out." 925 01:00:33,822 --> 01:00:37,108 But the truth is, I can't figure out what we've got. 926 01:00:39,786 --> 01:00:41,411 What else are you working on? 927 01:00:41,496 --> 01:00:43,454 We're after a list of CREEP employees. 928 01:00:43,540 --> 01:00:45,746 - Where is it? - It's classified. 929 01:00:45,959 --> 01:00:49,079 - How are you gonna get it? - We haven't had any luck, yet. 930 01:00:49,463 --> 01:00:50,661 Get some. 931 01:00:56,011 --> 01:00:57,339 Anything else? 932 01:01:07,314 --> 01:01:09,437 You made a mistake in there. 933 01:01:13,028 --> 01:01:14,143 What? 934 01:01:14,446 --> 01:01:16,486 You said to Brad that we haven't had any luck yet... 935 01:01:16,573 --> 01:01:19,243 and that's the thing that he jumps on. You can't talk about luck. 936 01:01:19,326 --> 01:01:23,027 If you can't talk in specifics, you shouldn't say anything. 937 01:01:28,210 --> 01:01:30,119 Is there any place you don't smoke? 938 01:01:33,006 --> 01:01:34,549 - What? - Hold it. 939 01:01:34,925 --> 01:01:37,083 - What're you doing? - Kay Eddy. 940 01:01:37,177 --> 01:01:40,214 Doesn't she go with a guy that works for the Committee to Re-Elect? 941 01:01:40,639 --> 01:01:42,133 - The E.R. - All right. 942 01:01:42,224 --> 01:01:44,466 - Eddy? Hey. Kay, can... - Just a second. 943 01:01:45,060 --> 01:01:48,928 - 757-6521. - Okay, I'll get back to you on this, thanks. 944 01:01:50,023 --> 01:01:53,606 Don't you go with a guy that works for the Committee to Re-Elect? 945 01:01:54,445 --> 01:01:56,402 - Not anymore. - You did go with him, though. 946 01:01:56,488 --> 01:01:58,315 I think you were engaged to him, weren't you? 947 01:01:58,407 --> 01:02:00,483 - Yeah. - You got out of it? 948 01:02:01,952 --> 01:02:04,241 - So? - You're looking better. 949 01:02:07,166 --> 01:02:09,242 Look, we need a list of the people that work there. 950 01:02:09,335 --> 01:02:11,042 Do you think that... 951 01:02:11,128 --> 01:02:13,204 - I can't do that. - Why not? 952 01:02:14,256 --> 01:02:15,501 It's personal. 953 01:02:15,591 --> 01:02:18,046 What do you mean? You said it was over. 954 01:02:20,763 --> 01:02:23,336 You're asking me to use a guy I care about. 955 01:02:23,432 --> 01:02:26,137 - No. We're not asking you to use him... - Well, sure... 956 01:02:26,226 --> 01:02:28,718 ...just to help us. I mean, we'd do the same for you. 957 01:02:28,812 --> 01:02:31,019 My only chance of getting that story is if I see him. 958 01:02:31,106 --> 01:02:32,933 I don't want to see him again. 959 01:02:33,025 --> 01:02:35,350 - Do you have to see him? - Sure, I have to see him. 960 01:02:35,444 --> 01:02:36,772 No. Do you have to see him that way? 961 01:02:36,862 --> 01:02:38,606 Can't you just call him up on the telephone... 962 01:02:38,697 --> 01:02:40,939 and say you want to have a drink with him, just feel him out? 963 01:02:41,033 --> 01:02:44,782 You say the relationship is over. What the hell do you have to lose? 964 01:02:45,663 --> 01:02:46,991 Forget it. 965 01:02:47,623 --> 01:02:49,995 We don't want you to do anything that would embarrass you... 966 01:02:50,084 --> 01:02:52,575 or that you don't feel right about. 967 01:02:53,295 --> 01:02:54,624 Forget it. 968 01:03:03,305 --> 01:03:06,306 Don't let her just get off. I think she was going to say something. 969 01:03:06,392 --> 01:03:09,013 You just overdramatized it, she was going to give us what we want. 970 01:03:09,103 --> 01:03:10,182 It's over. 971 01:03:10,271 --> 01:03:11,681 - What? - It's over. 972 01:03:56,692 --> 01:03:58,103 Is this the whole list? 973 01:03:58,194 --> 01:04:01,859 Look what it says. "Personnel, Committee to Re-Elect the President." 974 01:04:03,866 --> 01:04:06,535 This is all in alphabetical order. You can't tell who works for who. 975 01:04:06,619 --> 01:04:09,703 Well, find out the department heads like Mitchell, Magruder, Stans. 976 01:04:09,789 --> 01:04:11,034 Here. John Mitchell. 977 01:04:11,123 --> 01:04:12,666 - What's the number? - 301. 978 01:04:12,750 --> 01:04:15,323 All right. Find somebody who has a number close to it. 979 01:04:15,419 --> 01:04:17,044 - They probably work for him. - There's a 303. 980 01:04:17,129 --> 01:04:18,244 Okay. 981 01:04:20,550 --> 01:04:24,215 Okay, we have to find out how the money got from Maurice Stans to the burglars. 982 01:04:24,303 --> 01:04:26,343 Somebody who worked in Finance. 983 01:04:27,056 --> 01:04:30,057 All right. Here's the head of Finance. Maurice Stans, 269. 984 01:04:30,142 --> 01:04:33,060 If we can just get somebody who works under Stans. 985 01:04:33,855 --> 01:04:35,894 - Sloan? You need him? - He's the treasurer. 986 01:04:35,982 --> 01:04:38,021 - What's the number? - Hugh Sloan, 287. 987 01:04:38,109 --> 01:04:39,900 Is there a secretary? 988 01:04:41,654 --> 01:04:44,738 Wait a minute. Manley. Here it is. Irene Manley? 989 01:04:45,575 --> 01:04:48,030 1406 Lee Jackson Memorial Highway. 990 01:04:48,411 --> 01:04:50,653 - Hi, I'm Bob Woodward. - I'm Carl Bernstein. 991 01:04:50,747 --> 01:04:51,861 We're from the Washington Post. 992 01:04:51,956 --> 01:04:54,245 We'd like to know if we could speak to you for a few minutes. 993 01:04:54,333 --> 01:04:56,824 We understand your daughter works for the Committee to Re-Elect. 994 01:04:56,919 --> 01:05:00,039 - Wouldn't be anything embarrassing. - Would you object to just... 995 01:05:02,216 --> 01:05:03,296 - Yes? - Hi. 996 01:05:03,384 --> 01:05:04,795 Miss Milland? Betty Milland? 997 01:05:04,886 --> 01:05:06,677 - I'm Bob Woodward. - Carl Bernstein. 998 01:05:06,763 --> 01:05:08,091 We're from the Washington Post. 999 01:05:08,181 --> 01:05:10,932 I know you're trying to do your job. I mean... 1000 01:05:11,601 --> 01:05:13,640 You don't understand the pressure that we're under. 1001 01:05:13,728 --> 01:05:16,895 It'll just take a couple of seconds. If we can just come in for a couple of... 1002 01:05:16,981 --> 01:05:18,773 - No, I really don't... - We don't want to come in. 1003 01:05:18,858 --> 01:05:20,685 We understand that there was some documents... 1004 01:05:20,777 --> 01:05:22,603 that were shredded at the Committee. 1005 01:05:22,695 --> 01:05:24,106 Well, there... 1006 01:05:24,322 --> 01:05:26,813 There's often shredding. We do that a lot. 1007 01:05:26,908 --> 01:05:29,197 - Were you there during the shredding? - Yes, I was. 1008 01:05:29,285 --> 01:05:31,907 I see. Were there any department heads from... 1009 01:05:31,996 --> 01:05:33,704 the Committee who were also present? 1010 01:05:33,790 --> 01:05:36,363 Yes. Mr. Mitchell came in one night. 1011 01:05:36,626 --> 01:05:38,784 John Mitchell? The Attorney General? 1012 01:05:39,254 --> 01:05:42,208 He was carrying a raincoat over his head. 1013 01:05:43,299 --> 01:05:45,624 I thought he was going to go... 1014 01:05:46,261 --> 01:05:47,969 Did he supervise the shredding? 1015 01:05:48,054 --> 01:05:51,672 Can I not answer any more questions? I'd just soon not... 1016 01:05:51,808 --> 01:05:53,800 Okay? Maybe I could call you? 1017 01:05:55,061 --> 01:05:58,311 - Are you being told not to talk? - Will you call us? 1018 01:05:58,898 --> 01:06:00,357 I don't know. 1019 01:06:00,775 --> 01:06:01,973 I'll try. 1020 01:06:02,068 --> 01:06:04,559 What about all that shredding that took place after the break-in? 1021 01:06:04,654 --> 01:06:06,647 Need to know more about the papers that were in shredding. 1022 01:06:06,739 --> 01:06:08,364 I think you've some idea what's in the papers... 1023 01:06:08,449 --> 01:06:10,323 when the former Attorney General comes to the office... 1024 01:06:10,410 --> 01:06:12,118 when it's taking place at the Committee to Re-Elect... 1025 01:06:12,203 --> 01:06:14,160 and got a raincoat over his head. Why's he in a raincoat? 1026 01:06:14,247 --> 01:06:15,658 Could be raining is what could've happened. 1027 01:06:15,748 --> 01:06:16,947 Let me go through the story again. 1028 01:06:17,041 --> 01:06:19,367 You got a woman who's frightened at the door. Works for CREEP. 1029 01:06:19,461 --> 01:06:22,580 She said there's shredding taking place. We don't know what's in the papers. 1030 01:06:22,672 --> 01:06:25,756 We know the former Attorney General comes in with an overcoat over his head. 1031 01:06:25,842 --> 01:06:27,550 It could be raining. There's a lawyer present. 1032 01:06:27,635 --> 01:06:29,877 We don't know what he asked them. She wouldn't talk about it. 1033 01:06:29,971 --> 01:06:31,762 Now, will you please tell me where there's a story? 1034 01:06:31,848 --> 01:06:35,098 There's a story in the fact that the interview did not take place in her home... 1035 01:06:35,185 --> 01:06:36,809 but in the office of the Committee to Re-Elect. 1036 01:06:36,895 --> 01:06:38,437 How's there a story in that? It's not enough! 1037 01:06:38,521 --> 01:06:40,514 There's a story because there's a lawyer in the office. 1038 01:06:40,607 --> 01:06:42,683 - I mean, you're more resistant than she is. - That's right. 1039 01:06:42,776 --> 01:06:44,733 - Why? - Because there's not enough fact. 1040 01:06:45,653 --> 01:06:48,857 Well, let's just turn around and go back and question her again. 1041 01:06:50,867 --> 01:06:53,702 - This won't take long at all. We just want... - Please go away, okay? 1042 01:06:53,787 --> 01:06:56,242 Will you please leave before they see you. 1043 01:06:56,748 --> 01:06:59,500 - Who did you mean by... - Who do you mean, "they"? 1044 01:06:59,834 --> 01:07:01,542 Could you give us their names? 1045 01:07:01,628 --> 01:07:05,127 We haven't revealed the sources of people that have talked to us. 1046 01:07:06,091 --> 01:07:08,214 You know, I really can't talk about this because... 1047 01:07:08,301 --> 01:07:10,673 Would "they" be members of the Committee? 1048 01:07:13,556 --> 01:07:15,300 Someone got to that woman. 1049 01:07:15,392 --> 01:07:16,934 It's the key to the whole cover-up. 1050 01:07:17,018 --> 01:07:18,678 How can you write that there's a cover-up? 1051 01:07:18,770 --> 01:07:20,229 We don't know that there's a cover-up! 1052 01:07:20,313 --> 01:07:22,222 Well, then, I don't know what the hell you need. 1053 01:07:22,315 --> 01:07:24,522 So, you tell me what you need. 1054 01:07:24,985 --> 01:07:26,894 I need more fact for a story is what I need... 1055 01:07:26,987 --> 01:07:28,611 and I think you should need the same thing. 1056 01:07:28,697 --> 01:07:30,488 Okay, if you get in the car... 1057 01:07:30,574 --> 01:07:33,243 and there's music playing in the car, hypothetically. 1058 01:07:33,326 --> 01:07:35,319 There's music playing in the car for 10 minutes... 1059 01:07:35,412 --> 01:07:37,985 and there's no commercial. What can you deduce from that? 1060 01:07:38,081 --> 01:07:39,575 - Is it AM or FM? - Come on, Bernstein! 1061 01:07:39,666 --> 01:07:40,911 Is it AM or FM? 1062 01:07:41,001 --> 01:07:44,749 A guy can come up to me on the street and he can ask me an address. 1063 01:07:45,046 --> 01:07:47,964 Now, is the man interrogating me, or is he lost? 1064 01:07:48,049 --> 01:07:49,425 What kind of a story do I write? 1065 01:07:49,509 --> 01:07:51,418 What kind of a deduction do I make from that? 1066 01:07:51,511 --> 01:07:54,797 Because you don't have a gut feeling that the woman is trying to help us? 1067 01:07:54,890 --> 01:07:57,760 No, I don't have enough gut feeling and I wish I did. 1068 01:07:58,769 --> 01:08:01,176 We're from the Washington Post... 1069 01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:08,437 Abbott, Addis, Agusto, Albus... 1070 01:08:16,912 --> 01:08:19,533 Is there something that strikes you as odd about this? 1071 01:08:19,623 --> 01:08:21,450 - What? - It's almost like there's a pattern... 1072 01:08:21,541 --> 01:08:22,621 to the way they're not talking. 1073 01:08:22,709 --> 01:08:25,876 The way they say "no"all the time. I think it's odd. 1074 01:08:26,338 --> 01:08:28,081 - Mrs. Hambling? - Yes. 1075 01:08:28,298 --> 01:08:30,623 Hi, we're from the Washington Post. 1076 01:08:30,717 --> 01:08:32,710 I'm Carl Bernstein, this is Bob Woodward. 1077 01:08:32,803 --> 01:08:35,839 A friend of the Committee said that we could contact you. 1078 01:08:35,931 --> 01:08:37,970 - Who was it? - We can't reveal that. 1079 01:08:38,058 --> 01:08:40,466 You can talk to us. We don't reveal our sources. 1080 01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:42,103 You people... 1081 01:08:43,105 --> 01:08:46,474 You think you can come into my home, ask a few questions... 1082 01:08:47,067 --> 01:08:51,563 have me destroy the reputations of men that I work for and respect? 1083 01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:55,279 Do you understand loyalty? 1084 01:08:55,659 --> 01:08:57,699 Have you ever heard of loyalty? 1085 01:08:59,037 --> 01:09:00,282 - Hi. - Yes? 1086 01:09:00,497 --> 01:09:01,576 I'm Bob Woodward. 1087 01:09:01,665 --> 01:09:03,539 Carl Bernstein. We're from the Washington Post. 1088 01:09:03,625 --> 01:09:04,740 Yes. 1089 01:09:04,835 --> 01:09:07,670 I've read what you've written. I want to thank you. 1090 01:09:08,589 --> 01:09:12,005 I've been a Republican all my life, but this goes beyond party politics. 1091 01:09:12,092 --> 01:09:14,666 Would you mind if we asked you a few questions? 1092 01:09:14,761 --> 01:09:17,299 No. Come in. Would you like coffee? 1093 01:09:18,348 --> 01:09:19,463 Sure. 1094 01:09:19,892 --> 01:09:22,679 What they've done is a threat to the Constitution. 1095 01:09:22,770 --> 01:09:25,095 It goes against everything we stand for. 1096 01:09:25,189 --> 01:09:27,976 Could you be a little bit more specific than that? 1097 01:09:28,066 --> 01:09:30,854 I'm afraid your articles have just scratched the surface. 1098 01:09:30,944 --> 01:09:33,780 You don't mind if I just take a few notes, do you? 1099 01:09:33,864 --> 01:09:34,943 No. 1100 01:09:35,949 --> 01:09:38,357 How long have you worked at the Committee? 1101 01:09:38,702 --> 01:09:39,817 Committee? 1102 01:09:39,912 --> 01:09:42,829 Yes, the Committee to Re-Elect the President. 1103 01:09:44,291 --> 01:09:47,992 Oh, I don't work at the Committee to Re-Elect the President. 1104 01:09:48,212 --> 01:09:51,830 I work at Garfinkel's, in the accounting department. 1105 01:09:55,969 --> 01:09:57,713 - Miss Abbott? - Yes. 1106 01:09:59,473 --> 01:10:00,967 Judith Abbott? 1107 01:10:03,352 --> 01:10:04,894 Carolyn Abbott. 1108 01:10:07,773 --> 01:10:10,181 We're just doing something wrong. 1109 01:10:12,820 --> 01:10:14,729 - Never been there. - No. 1110 01:10:15,823 --> 01:10:17,946 We're doing something wrong. 1111 01:10:18,576 --> 01:10:20,615 It's just not good enough. 1112 01:10:20,995 --> 01:10:24,245 How can you keep going at something past the point when you believe it? 1113 01:10:24,331 --> 01:10:26,454 We just have to start all over again. 1114 01:10:32,381 --> 01:10:35,252 Nasmith, Narrow, Ness... 1115 01:10:35,426 --> 01:10:37,003 Nickels, Nixon... 1116 01:10:37,636 --> 01:10:39,012 Ed Nixon. 1117 01:10:39,597 --> 01:10:42,135 Jolson, Jones... 1118 01:10:42,766 --> 01:10:44,759 Jordan, Jost. 1119 01:10:44,894 --> 01:10:47,432 If we could only get somebody that worked for Finance to talk. 1120 01:10:47,521 --> 01:10:48,636 I can't believe it. 1121 01:10:48,731 --> 01:10:50,355 - What about the bookkeeper? - Which bookkeeper? 1122 01:10:50,441 --> 01:10:52,315 The bookkeeper that worked for both Slans and... 1123 01:10:52,401 --> 01:10:54,441 - Oh, you're all right. - Sloan and Stans. 1124 01:10:54,528 --> 01:10:57,446 I've been there. I've called her twice. There's no answer. 1125 01:10:57,531 --> 01:10:59,405 I say we should start again. 1126 01:11:00,284 --> 01:11:03,202 Abbott, Addis, Agusto... 1127 01:11:03,287 --> 01:11:06,952 Albus, Aldus, Alexander... 1128 01:11:07,541 --> 01:11:10,495 Balowski, Clan, Donstille... 1129 01:11:11,045 --> 01:11:13,452 Boyle, Brenner, Bromley... 1130 01:11:13,964 --> 01:11:16,290 Jost, Nasmith... 1131 01:11:16,384 --> 01:11:18,957 Narrow, Ness, Nickels... 1132 01:11:19,512 --> 01:11:21,754 Martini, Sandstrom... 1133 01:11:24,016 --> 01:11:27,219 Skroes, Skully... 1134 01:11:27,311 --> 01:11:29,351 Skully. We've been there twice. 1135 01:11:29,438 --> 01:11:33,436 All right, Willcox, Windfall, Winter... 1136 01:11:34,819 --> 01:11:37,985 Two weeks work, half the names crossed off and what've you got? 1137 01:11:38,072 --> 01:11:39,697 People aren't talking, Harry. 1138 01:11:39,782 --> 01:11:42,569 And it's the way they're not talking that's unnatural. 1139 01:11:42,827 --> 01:11:45,828 Harry, we've been up all night. We went over all the quotes of the people. 1140 01:11:45,913 --> 01:11:48,665 - Slamming doors in our faces. - It's like they're getting instructions. 1141 01:11:48,749 --> 01:11:50,576 Want to hear some real news? 1142 01:11:51,252 --> 01:11:53,541 That GAO report in which you placed so much faith... 1143 01:11:53,629 --> 01:11:56,203 well, it 's been postponed till after tonight's renomination. 1144 01:11:56,299 --> 01:11:59,003 - What do you mean? - Hughes got a call from Stans in Florida. 1145 01:11:59,093 --> 01:12:01,501 Says he has new information, not to republish without it. 1146 01:12:01,596 --> 01:12:04,265 They're going to bury the report until after the renomination. 1147 01:12:04,348 --> 01:12:07,219 The Grand Jury indictment will be out soon and every indication says... 1148 01:12:07,310 --> 01:12:10,346 the indictment will stop at the five burglars, Hunt and Liddy. 1149 01:12:10,730 --> 01:12:12,888 And that's the end of your story. 1150 01:12:17,570 --> 01:12:20,856 The vote of all the delegates has been recorded. 1151 01:12:23,159 --> 01:12:26,528 The vote for Richard Nixon... 1152 01:12:28,456 --> 01:12:31,741 is 1,347. 1153 01:12:33,044 --> 01:12:36,460 The vote for Paul McCloskey is one. 1154 01:12:41,177 --> 01:12:43,466 And therefore I declare the nominee of the Republican Party... 1155 01:12:45,223 --> 01:12:47,844 for President of the United States... 1156 01:12:48,601 --> 01:12:50,843 President Richard Nixon. 1157 01:12:58,236 --> 01:13:01,272 Four more years! 1158 01:13:18,214 --> 01:13:23,125 The President, and the future President of the United States of America! 1159 01:13:24,762 --> 01:13:27,088 Wonderful young faces I see out there. 1160 01:13:27,181 --> 01:13:31,013 Your enthusiasm, your idealism, your hard work. 1161 01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:35,935 This is your first vote, and years from now... 1162 01:13:36,024 --> 01:13:38,100 I just hope you can all look back... 1163 01:13:38,193 --> 01:13:41,312 and say it was one of your best votes. Thank you. 1164 01:14:05,970 --> 01:14:08,722 Hi, I'm Carl Bernstein of the Washington Post and... 1165 01:14:08,807 --> 01:14:11,179 I just want to ask you a couple of questions. 1166 01:14:11,267 --> 01:14:13,390 Well, you don't want me. You want my sister. 1167 01:14:13,478 --> 01:14:15,803 It's for you. It's Carl Bernstein. 1168 01:14:15,897 --> 01:14:17,937 Oh, my God. He's the guy from the Post. Get rid of him. 1169 01:14:18,024 --> 01:14:19,981 Could I just borrow one of your cigarettes there? 1170 01:14:20,068 --> 01:14:21,183 Sure. 1171 01:14:22,696 --> 01:14:24,024 You've really got to go. 1172 01:14:24,114 --> 01:14:26,272 Sure. Could I just get a match? 1173 01:14:27,617 --> 01:14:29,076 I can understand your being afraid. 1174 01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:31,236 There's a lot of people at the Committee just like you... 1175 01:14:31,329 --> 01:14:34,663 who wanted to tell the truth but some people wouldn't listen. 1176 01:14:35,125 --> 01:14:38,375 Certain people have gone back to the prosecutors and the FBI... 1177 01:14:38,461 --> 01:14:41,296 to give information which they were never asked. 1178 01:14:43,008 --> 01:14:46,756 You were Hugh Sloan's bookkeeper when he worked for Maurice Stans at Finance... 1179 01:14:46,845 --> 01:14:49,336 and we were just wondering if you were... 1180 01:14:49,681 --> 01:14:53,382 promoted to work for Mr. Stans immediately after Mr. Sloan quit... 1181 01:14:53,476 --> 01:14:56,050 or whether there was some time lapse? 1182 01:15:00,025 --> 01:15:02,432 I never worked for Sloan or Stans. 1183 01:15:04,905 --> 01:15:07,989 Can I get you some coffee or something? 1184 01:15:08,116 --> 01:15:10,025 Yeah. Thanks very much. 1185 01:15:14,539 --> 01:15:15,820 Door sticks. 1186 01:15:19,711 --> 01:15:22,167 Could I just sit down for a second? 1187 01:15:25,091 --> 01:15:28,543 Sure, you can sit down, but I'm not going to tell you anything. 1188 01:15:29,888 --> 01:15:31,003 Okay. 1189 01:15:52,744 --> 01:15:55,235 I was just curious why you lied just then. 1190 01:15:55,789 --> 01:15:58,873 Have you been threatened if you tell the truth? 1191 01:15:59,918 --> 01:16:00,997 No. 1192 01:16:02,254 --> 01:16:03,962 Never in so many words. 1193 01:16:04,715 --> 01:16:05,960 - How do you like it? - Just milk. 1194 01:16:06,049 --> 01:16:07,841 - Thanks. - Okay, I'll just get that. 1195 01:16:08,385 --> 01:16:12,430 I saw in the wires that Mrs. Stans was in the hospital. 1196 01:16:12,514 --> 01:16:14,388 Is she feeling better? 1197 01:16:19,438 --> 01:16:22,688 The GAO, the General Accounting Report said that... 1198 01:16:23,567 --> 01:16:28,193 there was $350,000 in the safe of the Committee to Re-Elect the President. 1199 01:16:29,239 --> 01:16:32,988 Were you aware that it was that kind of funds from the very beginning? 1200 01:16:37,372 --> 01:16:40,457 A lot of people are watching me. They know I know a lot. 1201 01:16:41,043 --> 01:16:42,786 Was it all in $100 bills? 1202 01:16:43,378 --> 01:16:44,754 A lot of it was. 1203 01:16:46,089 --> 01:16:48,794 I thought it was an all-purpose, political fund... 1204 01:16:48,884 --> 01:16:51,885 you know, for taking fat cats to dinner, things like that. 1205 01:16:51,970 --> 01:16:53,928 $350,000 for dinners? 1206 01:16:56,683 --> 01:16:58,343 How was it paid out? 1207 01:17:03,023 --> 01:17:04,601 Not in one big chunk. 1208 01:17:06,735 --> 01:17:09,309 There was a list of 15 names and the amount of money... 1209 01:17:09,404 --> 01:17:11,693 given to each person next to the name. 1210 01:17:12,408 --> 01:17:14,281 What happened to the list? 1211 01:17:16,245 --> 01:17:19,199 It was destroyed. It was the only record. 1212 01:17:21,250 --> 01:17:24,286 Don't pay attention to this. This is for my memory. 1213 01:17:26,964 --> 01:17:28,956 I have a very bad memory. 1214 01:17:30,175 --> 01:17:31,967 You won't be quoted by name. 1215 01:17:32,052 --> 01:17:35,219 In fact, we get confirmations before we print anything. 1216 01:17:35,305 --> 01:17:36,764 I can't be... 1217 01:17:37,099 --> 01:17:40,100 positive that that money was used for the break-in, you understand? 1218 01:17:40,185 --> 01:17:41,514 Yes, I do. 1219 01:17:41,937 --> 01:17:44,855 - But, people sure are worried. - Which people? 1220 01:17:51,614 --> 01:17:55,611 Think you could help me with the disbursement of money... 1221 01:17:55,701 --> 01:17:59,450 in terms of the number of people that were involved? How many? 1222 01:18:02,166 --> 01:18:04,918 A group of them. About five. I don't know their names. 1223 01:18:05,002 --> 01:18:07,540 Would Mr. Sloan know? 1224 01:18:12,509 --> 01:18:15,546 - Would he... - I don't want to say anymore, okay? 1225 01:18:25,022 --> 01:18:26,730 I won't be much longer. 1226 01:18:28,943 --> 01:18:32,561 I wondered if you could just help me a little bit about... 1227 01:18:33,364 --> 01:18:36,199 the money. We hear all kinds of figures. 1228 01:18:40,037 --> 01:18:43,572 - There's so much of it. - How much is "so much"? 1229 01:18:43,707 --> 01:18:47,123 In one two-day period, $6 million came in. 1230 01:18:48,170 --> 01:18:50,875 - Six! - Six million, cash. 1231 01:18:53,092 --> 01:18:55,250 We didn't know where to put it all. 1232 01:18:56,429 --> 01:18:59,762 I thought it was all legal. I mean, I guess I did until... 1233 01:18:59,974 --> 01:19:03,058 after the break-in when I remembered Gordon got so much of it. 1234 01:19:03,144 --> 01:19:05,682 - This is Mr. Liddy? - It's all so rotten. 1235 01:19:07,523 --> 01:19:09,101 It's getting worse. 1236 01:19:10,109 --> 01:19:12,647 And the only one I care about is Hugh Sloan. 1237 01:19:13,279 --> 01:19:17,442 His wife was going to leave him if he didn't stand up and do what was right. 1238 01:19:17,825 --> 01:19:19,236 So, he quit. 1239 01:19:20,661 --> 01:19:22,321 I was wondering... 1240 01:19:24,123 --> 01:19:28,702 if Hugh Sloan was being set up now as a fall guy for John Mitchell. 1241 01:19:29,962 --> 01:19:31,373 What do you think? 1242 01:19:39,555 --> 01:19:43,055 If you guys could get John Mitchell, that would be beautiful. 1243 01:19:51,150 --> 01:19:52,644 Coffee's cold. 1244 01:19:54,946 --> 01:19:56,903 Is there any evidence that... 1245 01:19:58,074 --> 01:20:00,481 any of Mr. Mitchell's assistants... 1246 01:20:02,245 --> 01:20:03,822 were part of this? 1247 01:20:04,330 --> 01:20:08,244 I had all the evidence. It was destroyed. I don't know who destroyed it. 1248 01:20:08,543 --> 01:20:11,662 - I think Gordon did a lot of shredding. - Hard evidence? 1249 01:20:11,754 --> 01:20:15,834 Well, I can't say that it would positively prove that they planned the break-in... 1250 01:20:15,925 --> 01:20:17,965 but it would come pretty close. 1251 01:20:18,261 --> 01:20:21,594 Can you tell me anything about who got the money? 1252 01:20:23,224 --> 01:20:24,718 We have... 1253 01:20:25,268 --> 01:20:28,601 had some help on this from a couple of sources... 1254 01:20:29,230 --> 01:20:31,602 and this is a way of confirming it. 1255 01:20:35,194 --> 01:20:37,234 I don't want you to feel that you're in a position... 1256 01:20:37,321 --> 01:20:39,361 where you have to disclose names. 1257 01:20:39,574 --> 01:20:41,863 I can just ask you initials... 1258 01:20:42,493 --> 01:20:45,578 and then that way you're not divulging any information. 1259 01:20:46,581 --> 01:20:49,286 We have some idea. Would that be all right? 1260 01:20:54,339 --> 01:20:55,749 Was there an "M"? 1261 01:20:58,968 --> 01:21:00,877 Can you just nod either way? 1262 01:21:02,388 --> 01:21:04,132 Did it go that high up? 1263 01:21:08,228 --> 01:21:09,342 "L"? 1264 01:21:11,481 --> 01:21:13,355 I don't want to say any more, okay? 1265 01:21:13,441 --> 01:21:15,730 I'm sorry. You said "L"... 1266 01:21:16,528 --> 01:21:18,070 or... I get confused. 1267 01:21:18,655 --> 01:21:20,446 Could we just go back for a second? 1268 01:21:20,865 --> 01:21:23,273 In one six-day period, over $6 million came in. 1269 01:21:23,368 --> 01:21:25,407 You wouldn't believe what was going on inside that woman. 1270 01:21:25,495 --> 01:21:26,870 The stuff was just ready to pour out. 1271 01:21:26,955 --> 01:21:29,196 I'm pouring down cups of coffee trying to get it out of her... 1272 01:21:29,290 --> 01:21:30,535 before she throws me out of the house. 1273 01:21:30,625 --> 01:21:32,416 - Give me your notes so... - These are the notes. 1274 01:21:32,502 --> 01:21:34,791 - These are the notes? - I've got stuff on napkins, matchbooks... 1275 01:21:34,879 --> 01:21:37,038 I'm writing in the bathroom while she's getting coffee. 1276 01:21:37,132 --> 01:21:38,923 - I'm a walking litter basket! - You're crazy. 1277 01:21:39,008 --> 01:21:41,582 You'd be crazy, too, if you were operating on 20 cups of coffee. 1278 01:21:41,678 --> 01:21:43,421 Could you give me something I can get down? 1279 01:21:43,513 --> 01:21:44,793 I got it. I got it all. 1280 01:21:44,889 --> 01:21:46,300 Okay. Write. 1281 01:21:46,474 --> 01:21:48,846 - Mitchell was in control. - Wait a minute. 1282 01:21:49,602 --> 01:21:51,595 - There were men working under Mitchell... - How many? 1283 01:21:51,688 --> 01:21:53,846 I don't know how many, but the men working under Mitchell... 1284 01:21:53,940 --> 01:21:55,600 received the money from the slush fund. 1285 01:21:55,692 --> 01:21:57,186 Do we know how much money? 1286 01:21:57,277 --> 01:21:59,435 We're talking about hundreds of thousands of dollars. 1287 01:21:59,529 --> 01:22:02,281 And these men are the key to what that money was used for. 1288 01:22:02,365 --> 01:22:03,824 Boy, that woman was paranoid. 1289 01:22:03,908 --> 01:22:06,744 At one point, I suddenly wondered how high up this thing goes... 1290 01:22:06,828 --> 01:22:08,370 and her paranoia finally got to me. 1291 01:22:08,455 --> 01:22:10,827 I thought what we had was so hot, that any minute CBS or NBC... 1292 01:22:10,915 --> 01:22:12,825 would come in through the windows and take the story away. 1293 01:22:12,917 --> 01:22:13,997 You're both paranoid. 1294 01:22:14,085 --> 01:22:16,493 She's afraid of John Mitchell, you're afraid of Walter Cronkite. 1295 01:22:16,588 --> 01:22:18,711 - Right. - Can we go back to what she said? 1296 01:22:20,133 --> 01:22:22,209 Here. "L," "P," and "M." 1297 01:22:23,637 --> 01:22:25,380 - What do you mean? - It's "L," "P," and "M". 1298 01:22:25,472 --> 01:22:27,299 - She'd only give initials. - Initials? 1299 01:22:27,390 --> 01:22:30,806 The initials are the name of the men that worked under Mitchell. "L," "P," and "M." 1300 01:22:30,894 --> 01:22:32,721 You couldn't get the names? 1301 01:22:34,105 --> 01:22:36,181 If I could've gotten the names, I would've gotten the names! 1302 01:22:36,274 --> 01:22:37,899 I'm with the woman, trying to get anything I can. 1303 01:22:37,984 --> 01:22:40,143 She said "L," "P," and "M," that's all she would give me... 1304 01:22:40,237 --> 01:22:41,980 are the people who worked under Mitchell. 1305 01:22:42,072 --> 01:22:44,823 She said something about Mitchell. She hates him. 1306 01:22:44,908 --> 01:22:46,319 She said, "John Mitchell... 1307 01:22:46,409 --> 01:22:48,782 "If you guys could get John Mitchell, that would be beautiful." 1308 01:22:48,870 --> 01:22:51,361 Wait a minute, what's this here? What are you writing about Sloan? 1309 01:22:51,456 --> 01:22:53,496 "Sloan was the treasurer of the Committee to Re-Elect. 1310 01:22:53,583 --> 01:22:56,205 "His wife is pregnant and she made Sloan quit because apparently... 1311 01:22:56,294 --> 01:22:57,872 "he no longer wanted to be a part of it." 1312 01:22:57,963 --> 01:22:59,125 We've got to go see Sloan. 1313 01:22:59,214 --> 01:23:01,669 Okay. Make a note of it. So, what have we got? 1314 01:23:01,758 --> 01:23:03,039 Where's that matchbook? 1315 01:23:03,135 --> 01:23:04,297 - Here. - "L," "P," and "M." 1316 01:23:04,386 --> 01:23:05,666 Okay, "L," "P," and "M." 1317 01:23:05,762 --> 01:23:08,514 - "L" could be La Rue. It could be Liddy. - "L" is Liddy. 1318 01:23:08,598 --> 01:23:10,508 - How do we know that? - Because she said it. 1319 01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:13,056 Right here. She said, "At the time of the break-in... 1320 01:23:13,145 --> 01:23:14,853 "there was so much money floating around... 1321 01:23:14,938 --> 01:23:16,349 "that I know Gordon got part of it." 1322 01:23:16,440 --> 01:23:18,479 So I said, "You mean Gordon Liddy?" She said, "Yes." 1323 01:23:18,567 --> 01:23:20,855 So, "L" is Liddy. Okay, that leaves "P" and "M." 1324 01:23:20,944 --> 01:23:22,486 "P" could be... 1325 01:23:23,155 --> 01:23:26,488 Parkinson. It could be Porter. It could be... 1326 01:23:26,575 --> 01:23:29,611 Wait a minute! There was a guy once. There was a guy we talked to last week. 1327 01:23:29,703 --> 01:23:31,411 Didn't he say that there was a Bart Porter... 1328 01:23:31,496 --> 01:23:33,489 who at one time was a member of the Committee to Re-Elect? 1329 01:23:33,582 --> 01:23:35,539 Porter was called before the Grand Jury investigation. 1330 01:23:35,625 --> 01:23:37,203 So "P" is definitely Porter. 1331 01:23:37,294 --> 01:23:38,574 "P" could be Porter. 1332 01:23:38,670 --> 01:23:41,707 "P" is Porter, "L" is Liddy. All that leaves is "M"! 1333 01:23:42,257 --> 01:23:44,748 "M" could be McCord? That's out. 1334 01:23:45,218 --> 01:23:47,211 It could be Mardian. 1335 01:23:47,971 --> 01:23:49,216 It could be... 1336 01:23:50,057 --> 01:23:51,599 - Magruder! - I think it's Magruder. 1337 01:23:51,683 --> 01:23:53,925 - I think it's Magruder, too. - Why do you think it's Magruder? 1338 01:23:54,019 --> 01:23:55,597 Because he was second in command under Mitchell. 1339 01:23:55,687 --> 01:23:56,802 Why do you think it's Magruder? 1340 01:23:56,897 --> 01:23:59,269 Because at one time he was a temporary head... 1341 01:23:59,358 --> 01:24:01,397 of the Committee to Re-Elect, before Mitchell. 1342 01:24:01,485 --> 01:24:02,564 I don't want a cookie. 1343 01:24:02,653 --> 01:24:04,776 We've got to get that bookkeeper to say it was Magruder. 1344 01:24:04,863 --> 01:24:06,238 Never get her to say anything about "M." 1345 01:24:06,323 --> 01:24:08,944 We have got to go back there and try to get her to say it. 1346 01:24:09,451 --> 01:24:12,286 If we could make names of the initials... 1347 01:24:12,454 --> 01:24:14,779 then we'll know the people at CREEP who paid off the burglars. 1348 01:24:14,873 --> 01:24:17,543 We'll at least know who got the money. 1349 01:24:19,253 --> 01:24:22,123 The indictments that came down from the Grand Jury today... 1350 01:24:22,214 --> 01:24:23,412 stopped... 1351 01:24:24,091 --> 01:24:26,664 with the five burglars, Hunt and Liddy. 1352 01:24:26,927 --> 01:24:29,252 Carl, we have got to go back there and get that bookkeeper... 1353 01:24:29,346 --> 01:24:31,220 to say who the names are and not initials. 1354 01:24:31,306 --> 01:24:32,587 She ain't going to give it to you... 1355 01:24:32,683 --> 01:24:34,093 because I was with the woman for six hours. 1356 01:24:34,184 --> 01:24:36,473 - We have to try. - Then you'll have to trick her, threaten her. 1357 01:24:36,562 --> 01:24:38,270 - She's not going to do it. - Wait a minute. 1358 01:24:38,355 --> 01:24:40,478 - You know what we could do? - What? 1359 01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:45,768 - Listen, we go back there... - Yeah. 1360 01:24:46,363 --> 01:24:48,605 ...and you ask her who "P" is. - Yeah. 1361 01:24:48,699 --> 01:24:50,407 And then I say, "No, don't worry about it... 1362 01:24:50,492 --> 01:24:52,070 "we know 'P' is Porter." I just bury it. 1363 01:24:52,161 --> 01:24:54,367 Okay. Now, wait a minute. I say to her, "Who is 'P'?" 1364 01:24:54,455 --> 01:24:57,409 - And then you say to me... - I say, "No, we know 'P' is Porter." 1365 01:24:57,499 --> 01:24:59,243 - You mean, you try to fake her out? - Right. 1366 01:24:59,334 --> 01:25:01,956 - And what if she denies it? - We're screwed. 1367 01:25:02,046 --> 01:25:04,038 - So? - But if she doesn't, we know we got it. 1368 01:25:04,131 --> 01:25:06,420 - We know "P" is Porter. - Try it. 1369 01:25:15,851 --> 01:25:16,930 Hi. 1370 01:25:17,061 --> 01:25:18,638 They'll see you. 1371 01:25:19,313 --> 01:25:21,685 Not if you let us in, they won't. 1372 01:25:21,774 --> 01:25:23,351 And I'm Bob Woodward. 1373 01:25:23,442 --> 01:25:26,728 - They'll see your car. - We parked around the corner. 1374 01:25:27,655 --> 01:25:30,193 You have answers for everything, don't you? 1375 01:25:30,532 --> 01:25:32,821 If we did, we wouldn't be here. 1376 01:25:35,037 --> 01:25:36,282 You wrote what I told you. 1377 01:25:36,372 --> 01:25:38,411 Oh, no. Not your name. No one knows it was you. 1378 01:25:38,499 --> 01:25:40,705 Could you tell us who got the money? 1379 01:25:41,335 --> 01:25:42,829 And how much? 1380 01:25:43,796 --> 01:25:47,046 You mean like, "What did you do with the $25,000, lady?" 1381 01:25:47,341 --> 01:25:48,504 What? 1382 01:25:49,343 --> 01:25:52,379 Little jokes they're making down at Finance these days. 1383 01:25:53,347 --> 01:25:54,806 If people are to be convinced... 1384 01:25:54,890 --> 01:25:57,975 that Stans and Sloan are innocent, then our reporting must be precise... 1385 01:25:58,060 --> 01:25:59,685 and you can help us. 1386 01:25:59,770 --> 01:26:00,849 Who is "P"? 1387 01:26:00,938 --> 01:26:03,773 "P" we know, is Porter. You said, "$25,000." 1388 01:26:04,191 --> 01:26:06,314 Is that how much Porter got? 1389 01:26:10,239 --> 01:26:11,614 Was it more? 1390 01:26:16,704 --> 01:26:18,696 Was it more than $50,000? 1391 01:26:22,376 --> 01:26:25,211 Was Magruder the only "M" to receive money? 1392 01:26:32,803 --> 01:26:34,843 Who told you about Porter? 1393 01:26:36,682 --> 01:26:41,178 I'd like to move on now to the subject of the break-in at the Watergate... 1394 01:26:41,437 --> 01:26:43,845 and the controversies that keep coming up out of that. 1395 01:26:43,939 --> 01:26:47,143 It has recently, very recently been reported now, that... 1396 01:26:47,234 --> 01:26:48,894 some documents were torn up... 1397 01:26:48,986 --> 01:26:51,394 at the Committee to Re-Elect the President. 1398 01:26:51,489 --> 01:26:54,774 Are you investigating the tearing up of those documents... 1399 01:26:54,867 --> 01:26:57,572 Well, I think that came out in a story in the Washington Post. 1400 01:26:57,662 --> 01:26:59,619 - Yes. - I think the investigation... 1401 01:26:59,705 --> 01:27:01,497 that has just concluded itself... 1402 01:27:01,582 --> 01:27:03,871 has probably been one of the most intensive... 1403 01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:07,708 that the Department of Justice and the FBI has ever been involved in. 1404 01:27:07,797 --> 01:27:09,920 Some 1,500 persons were interviewed... 1405 01:27:10,007 --> 01:27:14,337 1,800 leads were followed, 333 agents were involved... 1406 01:27:14,428 --> 01:27:16,136 14,000 man-hours... 1407 01:27:16,639 --> 01:27:20,090 fifty-one of the 59 FBI field officers were involved. 1408 01:27:21,769 --> 01:27:23,975 And that, I think... 1409 01:27:24,605 --> 01:27:27,606 is a great credit to justice in this country. 1410 01:27:27,692 --> 01:27:29,850 Did you know that documents had been destroyed? 1411 01:27:29,944 --> 01:27:31,059 No, I did not. 1412 01:27:33,948 --> 01:27:37,447 All these neat little houses and all these nice little streets. 1413 01:27:37,994 --> 01:27:42,323 It's hard to believe that something's wrong in some of those little houses. 1414 01:27:42,790 --> 01:27:44,249 No, it isn't. 1415 01:27:45,918 --> 01:27:48,041 - Hello, I'm Carl Bernstein. - Bob Woodward. 1416 01:27:48,129 --> 01:27:51,249 We'd just like to talk to Mr. Sloan for a couple of minutes. 1417 01:27:51,340 --> 01:27:54,294 - He's resting right now. - Are you Mrs. Sloan? 1418 01:27:55,762 --> 01:27:58,846 - You're the two from the Post, aren't you? - Yes. 1419 01:27:59,474 --> 01:28:01,016 This is an honest house. 1420 01:28:01,100 --> 01:28:03,887 That's why we'd like to see your husband. 1421 01:28:04,145 --> 01:28:06,387 Faced with certain criminal charges that might be brought... 1422 01:28:06,481 --> 01:28:08,639 against some people that are innocent, we just feel that... 1423 01:28:08,733 --> 01:28:10,642 It's really for his benefit. 1424 01:28:10,735 --> 01:28:12,194 No, it's not. 1425 01:28:15,656 --> 01:28:17,982 No, it's not. 1426 01:28:18,242 --> 01:28:20,947 Deborah, tell them to come in. 1427 01:28:21,287 --> 01:28:22,402 Thanks. 1428 01:28:22,497 --> 01:28:24,988 - Hi, Carl Bernstein. - How do you do? Hugh Sloan. 1429 01:28:25,083 --> 01:28:26,458 - Bob Woodward. - How are you doing? 1430 01:28:26,542 --> 01:28:29,080 I appreciate you giving us the time. 1431 01:28:36,135 --> 01:28:38,377 You know, the reason that we're here, basically... 1432 01:28:38,471 --> 01:28:40,298 is that we've talked to certain people who... 1433 01:28:40,390 --> 01:28:42,513 have indicated that the reason you left the Committee... 1434 01:28:42,600 --> 01:28:45,056 was because you no longer want to be part of it. 1435 01:28:45,144 --> 01:28:47,184 Yeah, right. Maybe there's a legitimate explanation... 1436 01:28:47,272 --> 01:28:50,522 why the money was handed to Liddy and Mitchell's aides. 1437 01:28:53,736 --> 01:28:55,646 Try to understand this. 1438 01:28:57,031 --> 01:28:59,238 - I'm a Republican. - I am, too. 1439 01:28:59,534 --> 01:29:01,657 Well, I believe in Richard Nixon. 1440 01:29:01,744 --> 01:29:04,745 I worked in the White House for four years and so did my wife. 1441 01:29:04,831 --> 01:29:08,994 What happened on June 17, I don't think the President knew anything about. 1442 01:29:09,377 --> 01:29:11,785 Is it possible that some of his people might have known? 1443 01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:12,959 I'm not sure about that. 1444 01:29:13,047 --> 01:29:15,087 Do you think the truth will ever come out at the trial? 1445 01:29:15,175 --> 01:29:17,132 - That's another thing I'm not sure about. - Why? 1446 01:29:17,218 --> 01:29:19,792 Well, obviously, because certain people lied to the prosecutor. 1447 01:29:19,888 --> 01:29:22,129 No. We were never told flat out, "Don't talk!" 1448 01:29:22,223 --> 01:29:24,050 But the message was clear, though. 1449 01:29:24,142 --> 01:29:27,178 In other words, by their very silence, there was a cover-up. 1450 01:29:27,270 --> 01:29:30,057 Well, they didn't urge us to come forward and tell the truth. 1451 01:29:30,148 --> 01:29:32,187 "They," meaning the White House? 1452 01:29:32,275 --> 01:29:34,481 Well, the Committee's not an independent operation. 1453 01:29:34,569 --> 01:29:36,562 Everything's cleared with the White House. 1454 01:29:36,654 --> 01:29:39,858 And I don't think the FBI or the prosecutors understand that. 1455 01:29:39,949 --> 01:29:41,907 That report on the cash... 1456 01:29:42,827 --> 01:29:46,659 in the CREEP safe, that $350,000? 1457 01:29:46,748 --> 01:29:49,239 - No, more. - Was that a correct figure? 1458 01:29:49,334 --> 01:29:51,623 No, it was closer to $1,000,000. 1459 01:29:53,088 --> 01:29:55,757 And, as treasurer, you could release those funds? 1460 01:29:55,840 --> 01:29:57,418 When so ordered. 1461 01:29:57,717 --> 01:30:00,173 We don't know the names of the people who could order you. 1462 01:30:00,261 --> 01:30:02,468 - We just know that there were four. - No, there were five. 1463 01:30:02,555 --> 01:30:05,391 Mitchell, Stans, Magruder, they're obvious. 1464 01:30:06,267 --> 01:30:09,601 - There had to be a White House overseer. - Yeah, Colson. 1465 01:30:09,854 --> 01:30:13,769 No, Colson's too smart to get involved directly with anything like that. 1466 01:30:14,776 --> 01:30:16,270 It's Haldeman. 1467 01:30:18,572 --> 01:30:19,734 Right? 1468 01:30:21,283 --> 01:30:23,026 I won't talk about the other two. 1469 01:30:23,118 --> 01:30:24,991 They both worked at the White House? 1470 01:30:25,078 --> 01:30:28,696 One of them did, the other one's not in Washington. But that's all I'll say. 1471 01:30:28,790 --> 01:30:30,996 - Kalmbach. - Nixon's personal lawyer. 1472 01:30:31,334 --> 01:30:33,327 - Right? - Nixon's personal lawyer? 1473 01:30:33,420 --> 01:30:35,745 I can't say anything. I'm sorry. 1474 01:30:37,465 --> 01:30:39,707 - Well... - When's the baby due? 1475 01:30:42,137 --> 01:30:43,797 Soon. Next month. 1476 01:30:44,514 --> 01:30:47,301 - Are you going to stay here? - No, I don't think so. 1477 01:30:47,392 --> 01:30:49,266 Decided where you're gonna go? 1478 01:30:49,352 --> 01:30:52,935 I've been looking for a job in the private sector, but it's... 1479 01:30:53,356 --> 01:30:56,357 It's very hard. My name's been in the papers too much. 1480 01:30:57,819 --> 01:31:01,354 You know, one thing I'm just still not completely clear about? 1481 01:31:02,657 --> 01:31:05,824 When you handed out the money, how did that work, exactly? 1482 01:31:05,911 --> 01:31:07,109 Badly. 1483 01:31:10,749 --> 01:31:14,912 I think what Bob means is, that ordinarily, what was the procedure? 1484 01:31:15,212 --> 01:31:18,581 Routine. I'd call John Mitchell over at the Justice Department. 1485 01:31:18,673 --> 01:31:20,298 He'd say, "Go ahead, give out the money." 1486 01:31:20,384 --> 01:31:22,460 This was all done verbally? 1487 01:31:23,428 --> 01:31:24,507 Yes. 1488 01:31:25,430 --> 01:31:27,921 Okay, we know there were five men who controlled the slush fund. 1489 01:31:28,016 --> 01:31:29,131 Mitchell, Stans, and Magruder. 1490 01:31:29,226 --> 01:31:32,180 Yeah, those three we've got. And all three have been named by two sources. 1491 01:31:32,270 --> 01:31:33,978 What about the other two? 1492 01:31:34,439 --> 01:31:36,432 - Kalmbach. - We're pretty sure of Kalmbach. 1493 01:31:36,775 --> 01:31:39,562 Maybe we better wait until we get all five, huh? 1494 01:31:39,653 --> 01:31:40,851 Certain on Mitchell? 1495 01:31:40,946 --> 01:31:44,196 We know that he approved payments to Liddy while he was Attorney General. 1496 01:31:44,283 --> 01:31:46,026 - You've got more than one source? - Yes, Harry. 1497 01:31:46,118 --> 01:31:47,197 - Who are they? - Sloan. 1498 01:31:47,286 --> 01:31:48,365 Sloan and who else? 1499 01:31:48,453 --> 01:31:50,446 There's another guy at Justice who so far won't confirm... 1500 01:31:50,539 --> 01:31:52,946 the names of the others who control the fund. We're working on it. 1501 01:31:53,041 --> 01:31:55,034 - What about Deep Throat? - He's not a source on this. 1502 01:31:55,127 --> 01:31:56,455 - But do any of them have an axe? - No. 1503 01:31:56,545 --> 01:31:58,336 Personal, political, sexual. 1504 01:31:58,422 --> 01:31:59,999 - Is there anything at all on Mitchell? - No. 1505 01:32:00,090 --> 01:32:01,501 - Then can we use their names? - No. 1506 01:32:01,592 --> 01:32:05,720 God damn it! When is somebody gonna go on the record in this story? 1507 01:32:08,390 --> 01:32:11,593 You guys are about to write a story that says the former Attorney General... 1508 01:32:11,685 --> 01:32:15,552 the highest ranking law enforcement officer in this country is a crook! 1509 01:32:18,817 --> 01:32:20,857 Just be sure you're right. 1510 01:32:23,822 --> 01:32:26,740 - Essex House, may I help you? - John Mitchell. 1511 01:32:34,833 --> 01:32:35,912 Yes? 1512 01:32:36,752 --> 01:32:39,243 Sir, this is Carl Bernstein of the Washington Post... 1513 01:32:39,338 --> 01:32:41,745 and I'm sorry to disturb you at this hour. 1514 01:32:41,840 --> 01:32:45,589 Tomorrow we're running a story in the paper... 1515 01:32:45,677 --> 01:32:49,212 and we just think that you should have a chance to comment on it. 1516 01:32:50,766 --> 01:32:52,094 What does it say? 1517 01:32:52,768 --> 01:32:55,259 "John N. Mitchell, while serving... 1518 01:32:55,354 --> 01:32:58,438 "as United States Attorney General... 1519 01:32:58,524 --> 01:33:00,979 "personally controlled a secret cash fund... 1520 01:33:01,068 --> 01:33:03,524 "that was used to gather information about the Democrats... 1521 01:33:03,612 --> 01:33:04,857 - "according to"... - Jesus. 1522 01:33:04,947 --> 01:33:07,023 "...sources involved in the Watergate investigation." 1523 01:33:07,116 --> 01:33:10,117 - Jesus. - "Beginning in the spring of 1971... 1524 01:33:10,202 --> 01:33:12,361 "almost a year before he left the Justice Department... 1525 01:33:12,454 --> 01:33:14,910 "to become President Nixon's campaign manager... 1526 01:33:14,999 --> 01:33:19,246 "on March 1, Mitchell personally approved withdrawals from the fund." 1527 01:33:19,336 --> 01:33:21,874 All that crap. You're putting it in the paper? 1528 01:33:21,964 --> 01:33:24,122 - Well... - It's all been denied. 1529 01:33:24,800 --> 01:33:26,793 You tell your publisher, tell Katie Graham... 1530 01:33:26,886 --> 01:33:30,136 she's going to get her tit caught in the big ringer if that's published. 1531 01:33:30,222 --> 01:33:32,892 Christ, that's the most sickening thing I ever heard. 1532 01:33:32,975 --> 01:33:35,264 Sir, I was just wondering if I could ask you some questions? 1533 01:33:35,352 --> 01:33:37,760 - What time is it? - It's 11:30, sir. 1534 01:33:38,355 --> 01:33:41,309 11:30? Is it morning or night? 1535 01:33:41,400 --> 01:33:43,357 It's 11:30 at night, sir. 1536 01:33:45,029 --> 01:33:49,358 Sir, the Committee to Re-Elect has issued a statement to our story... 1537 01:33:49,450 --> 01:33:51,110 but there are just a couple of questions... 1538 01:33:51,202 --> 01:33:54,119 Did the Committee tell you to go ahead and publish the story? 1539 01:33:54,205 --> 01:33:56,743 You fellows have got a great ballgame going. 1540 01:33:56,832 --> 01:34:00,332 As soon as you're done, we're going to do a story on all of you. 1541 01:34:00,419 --> 01:34:02,246 Sir, there's just a couple of questions... 1542 01:34:02,338 --> 01:34:04,496 Call my law office in the morning. 1543 01:34:07,259 --> 01:34:09,881 There's no question you properly identified yourself? 1544 01:34:09,970 --> 01:34:12,177 He said it right off the top. 1545 01:34:13,099 --> 01:34:15,008 Mitchell know he was talking to a reporter? 1546 01:34:15,101 --> 01:34:17,426 Yeah, but I think I woke him up. 1547 01:34:17,895 --> 01:34:19,935 - Get good notes? - Verbatim. 1548 01:34:21,691 --> 01:34:24,360 He really said that about Mrs. Graham? 1549 01:34:25,945 --> 01:34:27,854 Well, I'd cut the words "her tit" and print it. 1550 01:34:27,947 --> 01:34:29,026 Why? 1551 01:34:29,115 --> 01:34:31,191 This is a family newspaper. 1552 01:34:34,578 --> 01:34:36,037 You know, once when I was reporting... 1553 01:34:36,122 --> 01:34:38,695 Lyndon Johnson's top guy gave me the word. 1554 01:34:39,250 --> 01:34:42,370 They were looking for a successor for J. Edgar Hoover. 1555 01:34:42,461 --> 01:34:46,210 I wrote it and the day it appeared, Johnson held a press conference... 1556 01:34:46,299 --> 01:34:49,299 and appointed Hoover head of the FBI for life. 1557 01:34:49,802 --> 01:34:52,554 When he was done, he turned to his top guy... 1558 01:34:52,638 --> 01:34:56,303 and the President said, "Call Ben Bradlee and tell him, 'Fuck you."' 1559 01:34:56,851 --> 01:34:59,223 Then everybody said, "You did it, Ben. You screwed up. 1560 01:34:59,312 --> 01:35:01,803 "You stuck us with Hoover forever." 1561 01:35:02,857 --> 01:35:05,526 I screwed up, but I wasn't wrong. 1562 01:35:09,488 --> 01:35:12,324 How much can you tell me about Deep Throat? 1563 01:35:13,326 --> 01:35:15,532 How much do you need to know? 1564 01:35:15,620 --> 01:35:17,244 Do you trust him? 1565 01:35:18,915 --> 01:35:19,994 Yeah. 1566 01:35:22,251 --> 01:35:26,830 I can't do the reporting for my reporters which means I have to trust them. 1567 01:35:28,508 --> 01:35:30,631 And I hate trusting anybody. 1568 01:35:38,976 --> 01:35:40,519 Run that, baby. 1569 01:36:20,143 --> 01:36:24,306 The Washington Post reported that while still in office as Attorney General... 1570 01:36:24,397 --> 01:36:28,561 John Mitchell had personally controlled a secret Republican fund. 1571 01:36:28,693 --> 01:36:32,643 Mitchell denied any such involvement and called the story ludicrous. 1572 01:36:33,031 --> 01:36:36,316 The new charge also brought a response from Vice President Agnew... 1573 01:36:36,409 --> 01:36:37,784 at his stop in Tampa. 1574 01:36:37,869 --> 01:36:40,656 I have full confidence in Mr. Mitchell... 1575 01:36:41,497 --> 01:36:44,664 and in the people in the Republican organization. 1576 01:36:44,751 --> 01:36:48,665 And I think that that kind of unattributed report... 1577 01:36:48,755 --> 01:36:51,542 at a time like this is counterproductive. 1578 01:36:51,716 --> 01:36:55,465 We must bear in mind that those who published it... 1579 01:36:56,387 --> 01:36:59,591 have already shown their sympathy for the other ticket. 1580 01:36:59,682 --> 01:37:01,342 A band and some young cheerleaders... 1581 01:37:01,434 --> 01:37:02,845 All non-denial denials. 1582 01:37:02,936 --> 01:37:05,687 They doubt our ancestry, but they don't say the story isn't accurate. 1583 01:37:05,772 --> 01:37:07,811 I mean, did you understand one thing he was saying? 1584 01:37:07,899 --> 01:37:11,102 What I can't figure out is, what is a real denial? 1585 01:37:11,236 --> 01:37:15,399 Well, if they start calling us goddamn liars, we better start circling the wagons. 1586 01:37:15,532 --> 01:37:17,358 When do you think they'll start doing that? 1587 01:37:17,450 --> 01:37:18,992 When they get out of Tampa. 1588 01:37:20,286 --> 01:37:22,991 Joe, come on. What's going on with you guys at the FBI? 1589 01:37:23,081 --> 01:37:24,705 I've been trying to get to you for weeks. 1590 01:37:24,791 --> 01:37:26,119 Your secretary says you're not in. 1591 01:37:26,209 --> 01:37:28,285 Last night I called, you said you couldn't talk... 1592 01:37:28,378 --> 01:37:31,047 and this morning, as soon as our Mitchell story hits the stands... 1593 01:37:31,131 --> 01:37:33,503 you call me and say you've got to see me right away. Why? 1594 01:37:33,591 --> 01:37:36,213 Look, you guys have been causing big trouble at the Bureau. 1595 01:37:36,302 --> 01:37:37,382 Why? 1596 01:37:37,762 --> 01:37:41,214 Our reports are showing up in your paper almost verbatim. 1597 01:37:41,308 --> 01:37:45,008 I mean, you've really been on the mark, except for Mitchell. 1598 01:37:45,103 --> 01:37:47,226 Now, we didn't have that... 1599 01:37:47,605 --> 01:37:50,227 - that he controlled the funds. - Right. 1600 01:37:50,400 --> 01:37:52,227 Our agents have been busting ass... 1601 01:37:52,319 --> 01:37:54,726 but we're gonna go back now and see if we've missed anything. 1602 01:37:54,821 --> 01:37:56,564 What I don't understand is all the people... 1603 01:37:56,656 --> 01:37:58,732 who might know details of the bugging operation... 1604 01:37:58,825 --> 01:38:00,450 the FBI hasn't even talked to. 1605 01:38:00,535 --> 01:38:03,026 And why have you conducted your interviews of CREEP personnel... 1606 01:38:03,121 --> 01:38:04,284 at CREEP headquarters... 1607 01:38:04,372 --> 01:38:07,409 instead of at their homes where they might feel freer to talk? 1608 01:38:07,500 --> 01:38:08,699 Joe, wait a minute. 1609 01:38:08,793 --> 01:38:11,581 Why have the interviews at CREEP always been conducted... 1610 01:38:11,671 --> 01:38:14,293 within the presence of the lawyer who works for CREEP? 1611 01:38:14,382 --> 01:38:17,383 Look, you know I can't answer for the whole Bureau. 1612 01:38:17,469 --> 01:38:20,386 - Oh, come on, I'm just... - I do what I'm told. 1613 01:38:21,640 --> 01:38:23,846 I followed my orders. Period. 1614 01:38:30,065 --> 01:38:31,440 What orders? 1615 01:38:35,612 --> 01:38:37,605 Wait. Woodward! 1616 01:38:40,242 --> 01:38:41,321 Wait! 1617 01:38:42,661 --> 01:38:43,740 Bob! 1618 01:38:46,581 --> 01:38:48,989 Out of the blue. Out of the blue. 1619 01:38:51,169 --> 01:38:54,419 Okay, this morning I get a tip to call a guy by the name of Alex Shipley... 1620 01:38:54,506 --> 01:38:56,997 who is now the Assistant Attorney General of Tennessee. 1621 01:38:57,092 --> 01:38:59,665 Now, the guy told me, that called me, that said... 1622 01:38:59,761 --> 01:39:02,431 He said that Shipley was asked in the summer of 1971... 1623 01:39:02,514 --> 01:39:04,922 by an old army buddy, a Donald Segretti... 1624 01:39:05,017 --> 01:39:06,890 to join a group of other lawyers... 1625 01:39:06,977 --> 01:39:09,432 for Nixon's campaign to sabotage the Democratic candidates. 1626 01:39:09,521 --> 01:39:11,514 Listen, make a left when you can. We'll go to my place. 1627 01:39:11,606 --> 01:39:12,721 Sabotage Democratic candidates? 1628 01:39:12,816 --> 01:39:15,272 That's right. Now, I was able to make a couple of calls today... 1629 01:39:15,402 --> 01:39:17,229 and I got Segretti's records for the year... 1630 01:39:17,321 --> 01:39:20,275 His travel records for the years 1971-'72. 1631 01:39:20,824 --> 01:39:21,939 Does the FBI know about... 1632 01:39:22,034 --> 01:39:23,279 - Did you say left or right? - Left! 1633 01:39:23,368 --> 01:39:25,740 We're going to my place. We gotta go over the records. 1634 01:39:25,829 --> 01:39:28,616 - Does the FBI know about Segretti? - The FBI interrogated Segretti... 1635 01:39:28,707 --> 01:39:31,412 and found out he wasn't involved in the break-in so they dropped it. 1636 01:39:31,501 --> 01:39:32,581 They didn't follow through on it. 1637 01:39:32,669 --> 01:39:33,784 - Where is he? - He's in California. 1638 01:39:35,047 --> 01:39:36,755 - Jesus, look at this. - What? 1639 01:39:36,840 --> 01:39:40,375 Segretti crisscrossed the country at least a dozen times. 1640 01:39:42,012 --> 01:39:44,799 He only stayed in cities where there were Democratic primaries. 1641 01:39:44,890 --> 01:39:48,306 Well, if the break-in is just one incident in a campaign of sabotage... 1642 01:39:48,393 --> 01:39:50,018 that began a whole year before Watergate... 1643 01:39:50,103 --> 01:39:52,061 then for the first time, the break-in makes sense. 1644 01:39:52,147 --> 01:39:53,310 This isn't so crazy. 1645 01:39:53,398 --> 01:39:55,724 This thing didn't start with the bugging at the headquarters. 1646 01:39:55,818 --> 01:39:57,894 Segretti was doing this a year before the bugging. 1647 01:39:57,986 --> 01:39:59,778 And a year before, Nixon wasn't slaughtering Muskie. 1648 01:39:59,863 --> 01:40:03,564 He was running behind Muskie, before Muskie self-destructed. 1649 01:40:03,992 --> 01:40:05,819 If he self-destructed. 1650 01:40:06,912 --> 01:40:09,403 - Hi. Donald Segretti? - That's right. 1651 01:40:09,706 --> 01:40:12,624 I'm Carl Bernstein from the Washington Post. 1652 01:40:13,168 --> 01:40:14,247 Hi. 1653 01:40:15,087 --> 01:40:16,878 What can I do for you? 1654 01:40:16,964 --> 01:40:21,460 Well, my paper just sent me out here to try to persuade you to go on the record. 1655 01:40:21,718 --> 01:40:22,798 Why me? 1656 01:40:22,886 --> 01:40:25,009 I guess because you were the head coordinator... 1657 01:40:25,097 --> 01:40:28,596 of Nixon's sabotage campaign against the Democrats. 1658 01:40:29,852 --> 01:40:32,888 - Carl, you want some coffee? - You read my mind. 1659 01:40:38,736 --> 01:40:40,693 Carl, tell me something. 1660 01:40:41,655 --> 01:40:44,229 What do you imagine the head coordinator does? 1661 01:40:44,325 --> 01:40:48,192 Well, I guess basically you're involved in recruiting other people like yourself... 1662 01:40:48,287 --> 01:40:49,366 other lawyers. 1663 01:40:49,455 --> 01:40:52,124 - Lawyers? - Like Alex Shipley. 1664 01:40:53,167 --> 01:40:57,117 I made it clear that I would not do anything violent or illegal. 1665 01:40:57,379 --> 01:40:59,538 What do you mean by illegal? 1666 01:41:00,049 --> 01:41:03,714 Watergate, I mean, that's... The whole bugging. That's horrendous! 1667 01:41:04,094 --> 01:41:06,420 And what kind of stuff do you guys do then? 1668 01:41:06,513 --> 01:41:08,387 Nickel-and-dime stuff. 1669 01:41:09,558 --> 01:41:12,927 Stuff. Stuff with a little wit attached to it. 1670 01:41:13,020 --> 01:41:15,226 You mean, when you sent out on Muskie's stationery that... 1671 01:41:15,314 --> 01:41:18,600 Senator Hubert Humphrey was going out with call girls? 1672 01:41:19,026 --> 01:41:21,778 Listen, if anything, it helped the man's image. 1673 01:41:21,862 --> 01:41:25,029 What was the one on Muskie's stationery that you sent out... 1674 01:41:25,115 --> 01:41:28,615 that said that Scoop Jackson was having a bastard child? 1675 01:41:29,036 --> 01:41:32,405 So, sometimes it got up to a quarter. Off the record. 1676 01:41:32,957 --> 01:41:36,871 I think one of the most interesting ones was the Canuck letter. 1677 01:41:37,837 --> 01:41:39,331 What about it? 1678 01:41:40,047 --> 01:41:43,582 Come on. Where you claimed that Muskie slurred the Canadians. 1679 01:41:43,759 --> 01:41:45,716 No, I didn't write that. 1680 01:41:46,053 --> 01:41:47,251 Do you know who did? 1681 01:41:47,346 --> 01:41:50,632 Carl, when you guys print it in the papers, then I'll know. 1682 01:41:50,724 --> 01:41:52,384 Smart guy, Donald. 1683 01:41:53,102 --> 01:41:54,726 You're no dummy. 1684 01:41:55,604 --> 01:41:57,348 I'm a lawyer, Carl. 1685 01:41:57,940 --> 01:42:00,431 I'm a lawyer. I'm a good lawyer... 1686 01:42:01,026 --> 01:42:04,858 and I'll probably wind up going to jail and being disbarred... 1687 01:42:05,531 --> 01:42:09,825 and I don't know what I did that was so goddamn awful. 1688 01:42:15,541 --> 01:42:18,577 I'll tell you something. None of this was my idea. 1689 01:42:18,669 --> 01:42:20,543 I didn't go looking for the job. 1690 01:42:20,630 --> 01:42:22,539 Well, that's important. 1691 01:42:23,716 --> 01:42:25,459 Chapin came to you. 1692 01:42:32,308 --> 01:42:33,387 You know what? 1693 01:42:33,476 --> 01:42:37,473 It's funny, but I keep forgetting that you guys knew each other in college. 1694 01:42:37,563 --> 01:42:41,228 You were friends at SC, you and Chapin. Who else was there? 1695 01:42:41,651 --> 01:42:43,193 There was me... 1696 01:42:43,986 --> 01:42:45,149 Dwight... 1697 01:42:45,655 --> 01:42:46,935 Ziegler... 1698 01:42:47,114 --> 01:42:48,657 all the USC mafia. 1699 01:42:48,824 --> 01:42:51,778 And that's when you got involved in meaningless student elections... 1700 01:42:51,869 --> 01:42:55,949 when you start to try to get your man in so you stuffed ballot boxes and... 1701 01:42:56,040 --> 01:42:59,539 What's that term you guys use for screwing up the opposition? 1702 01:42:59,669 --> 01:43:02,160 - Rat-fucking. - That's right. 1703 01:43:02,255 --> 01:43:04,046 You were just doing the same kind of stuff... 1704 01:43:04,131 --> 01:43:06,883 when you were out campaigning for President Nixon. 1705 01:43:06,968 --> 01:43:10,752 Let me tell you something, we did a lot of worse things in college. 1706 01:43:11,848 --> 01:43:14,136 Look, let me ask you something, Carl. 1707 01:43:14,517 --> 01:43:17,186 What would you have done if you were just getting out of the army... 1708 01:43:17,270 --> 01:43:19,393 been away from the real world for four years... 1709 01:43:19,480 --> 01:43:22,766 didn't know what kind of law you wanted to practice... 1710 01:43:22,859 --> 01:43:25,432 and one day you get a call from an old friend... 1711 01:43:25,528 --> 01:43:29,442 asking if you want to go to work for the President of the United States? 1712 01:43:30,241 --> 01:43:33,776 Chapin was the appointment secretary for Nixon when he called. 1713 01:43:33,870 --> 01:43:36,954 Yeah. Listen, if those sinister things really happened... 1714 01:43:37,040 --> 01:43:38,866 I don't think Dwight knew anything about them. 1715 01:43:38,958 --> 01:43:40,500 He just did what he was told. 1716 01:43:40,585 --> 01:43:41,996 Told by who? 1717 01:43:53,222 --> 01:43:55,429 What's the topic for tonight? 1718 01:44:00,605 --> 01:44:02,016 Rat-fucking. 1719 01:44:04,108 --> 01:44:07,312 In my day it was simply known as the double-cross. 1720 01:44:08,196 --> 01:44:10,235 In our present context... 1721 01:44:11,991 --> 01:44:14,743 it means infiltration of the Democrats. 1722 01:44:16,663 --> 01:44:19,070 Segretti won't go on the record... 1723 01:44:19,290 --> 01:44:22,576 but if he would, we know he would implicate Chapin. 1724 01:44:24,087 --> 01:44:27,088 And that would put you inside the White House. 1725 01:44:27,924 --> 01:44:29,003 Who? 1726 01:44:31,386 --> 01:44:32,761 Be specific. 1727 01:44:33,888 --> 01:44:35,299 How high up? 1728 01:44:38,601 --> 01:44:41,436 You'll have to find that out for yourself. 1729 01:44:42,939 --> 01:44:44,896 I don't like newspapers. 1730 01:44:46,943 --> 01:44:49,778 I don't care for inexactitude... 1731 01:44:50,697 --> 01:44:52,321 and shallowness. 1732 01:44:53,700 --> 01:44:56,903 The CREEP slush fund that financed the rat-fucking... 1733 01:44:56,995 --> 01:44:59,284 we've just about got that nailed down. I don't know how... 1734 01:44:59,372 --> 01:45:01,116 Did you change cabs? 1735 01:45:08,339 --> 01:45:09,419 Yeah. 1736 01:45:10,133 --> 01:45:12,458 Does the FBI know what we know? 1737 01:45:16,639 --> 01:45:18,134 Does Justice? 1738 01:45:22,354 --> 01:45:24,642 Why haven't they done anything? 1739 01:45:25,315 --> 01:45:29,776 If it didn't deal directly with the break-in, they didn't pursue. 1740 01:45:30,904 --> 01:45:32,695 Who told them not to? 1741 01:45:33,031 --> 01:45:35,736 Don't you understand what you're on to? 1742 01:45:39,287 --> 01:45:42,324 - Mitchell knew? - Of course Mitchell knew. 1743 01:45:43,250 --> 01:45:46,001 Do you think something this size just happens? 1744 01:45:46,086 --> 01:45:47,913 Haldeman had to know, too. 1745 01:45:48,004 --> 01:45:50,791 You'll get nothing from me about Haldeman. 1746 01:45:54,844 --> 01:45:56,303 Segretti said that... 1747 01:45:56,388 --> 01:45:59,839 Don't concentrate on Segretti. You'll miss the overall. 1748 01:46:02,143 --> 01:46:05,595 The letter that destroyed the Muskie candidacy... 1749 01:46:05,689 --> 01:46:07,847 the Canuck letter, did that come from inside the White... 1750 01:46:07,941 --> 01:46:09,732 You're missing the overall. 1751 01:46:09,901 --> 01:46:11,230 But what overall? 1752 01:46:11,319 --> 01:46:14,605 They were frightened of Muskie, and look who got destroyed. 1753 01:46:14,698 --> 01:46:18,565 They wanted to run against McGovern. Look who they're running against. 1754 01:46:18,702 --> 01:46:21,703 They bugged, they followed people... 1755 01:46:22,205 --> 01:46:24,531 false press leaks, fake letters. 1756 01:46:25,208 --> 01:46:27,664 They canceled Democratic campaign rallies. 1757 01:46:27,753 --> 01:46:30,872 They investigated Democratic private lives. 1758 01:46:31,548 --> 01:46:34,549 They planted spies, stole documents, and on and on. 1759 01:46:34,634 --> 01:46:39,047 Now, don't tell me you think this is all the work of little Don Segretti. 1760 01:46:41,391 --> 01:46:43,598 The FBI and Justice know this? 1761 01:49:14,587 --> 01:49:15,785 - Carl? - Yeah. 1762 01:49:15,880 --> 01:49:17,872 Why don't you pick up your messages more often? 1763 01:49:17,965 --> 01:49:19,792 - Right. You got a cigarette? - Yeah. 1764 01:49:20,009 --> 01:49:21,207 Who's Pete Teller? 1765 01:49:21,302 --> 01:49:24,635 I haven't the slightest idea, Carl. I have this whole place to take care of. 1766 01:49:24,722 --> 01:49:26,382 - Carl? - Yeah, one second. 1767 01:49:28,100 --> 01:49:31,018 Tell him to leave his phone number next time, all right? Hi, Sally. 1768 01:49:31,103 --> 01:49:33,012 Listen, do you guys know about the Canuck letter? 1769 01:49:33,105 --> 01:49:34,268 Yep. I'm sorry, I'm late. 1770 01:49:34,356 --> 01:49:37,144 I just wanted to make sure you knew who wrote it. 1771 01:49:38,235 --> 01:49:40,643 What? 1772 01:49:40,863 --> 01:49:43,069 You mean the letter that sabotaged the Muskie candidacy? 1773 01:49:43,157 --> 01:49:44,817 All right, come here. 1774 01:49:44,992 --> 01:49:47,032 When did he tell you this? 1775 01:49:50,164 --> 01:49:52,157 Gotta tell Bob. 1776 01:49:55,419 --> 01:49:57,079 - Woodward. - What? 1777 01:49:57,963 --> 01:50:00,371 One second. Very important... Come here. 1778 01:50:01,801 --> 01:50:03,840 Tell him what you told me. 1779 01:50:04,929 --> 01:50:06,471 Here, sit down. 1780 01:50:08,349 --> 01:50:11,765 Just exactly the way you said it to me, say it to him. 1781 01:50:12,353 --> 01:50:14,678 Ken Clawson told me he wrote the Canuck letter. 1782 01:50:14,772 --> 01:50:16,681 The letter that said Muskie was slurring the Canadians. 1783 01:50:16,774 --> 01:50:17,853 Clawson? 1784 01:50:17,942 --> 01:50:20,943 The Deputy Director of White House Communications wrote the Canuck letter. 1785 01:50:21,028 --> 01:50:23,151 - When did he tell you this? - When we were having drinks. 1786 01:50:23,239 --> 01:50:25,113 - Where were you? - My apartment. 1787 01:50:25,199 --> 01:50:27,275 - When did you say he told you? - Two weeks ago. 1788 01:50:27,368 --> 01:50:29,941 What else did he say? He didn't say anything? 1789 01:50:30,037 --> 01:50:31,117 Come on, you're hedging. 1790 01:50:31,205 --> 01:50:33,875 You think he said it to impress you to get you to go to bed with him? 1791 01:50:33,958 --> 01:50:35,867 - Jesus. - No, I want to hear her say it. 1792 01:50:35,960 --> 01:50:39,294 Do you think he said that to impress you, try to get you to go to bed with him? 1793 01:50:39,380 --> 01:50:42,796 Why did it take you two weeks to tell us this, Sally? 1794 01:50:44,093 --> 01:50:47,877 I guess I don't have the taste for the jugular you guys have. 1795 01:50:51,058 --> 01:50:52,850 You're claiming it was all a misunderstanding? 1796 01:50:52,935 --> 01:50:55,177 Absolutely. Sally's got it all wrong. 1797 01:50:55,271 --> 01:50:57,311 I never told her that I wrote that letter. 1798 01:50:57,398 --> 01:50:59,474 We were just shooting the breeze about the election. 1799 01:50:59,567 --> 01:51:00,812 She's an awfully good reporter. 1800 01:51:00,902 --> 01:51:03,143 I don't remember her getting that much wrong before, do you? 1801 01:51:03,237 --> 01:51:05,610 Look, that's a real bullshit question, Woodward. 1802 01:51:05,698 --> 01:51:08,485 That is a question straight out of Wichita, Kansas. 1803 01:51:08,576 --> 01:51:10,035 Listen. One last thing. 1804 01:51:10,119 --> 01:51:13,120 Do you remember where this shooting the breeze took place? 1805 01:51:13,206 --> 01:51:15,163 What do you mean, where? 1806 01:51:15,416 --> 01:51:17,872 I mean, was it a restaurant, or her apartment, or a bar? 1807 01:51:17,960 --> 01:51:20,000 Now, look. I'd forgotten the entire incident... 1808 01:51:20,088 --> 01:51:22,211 but it most certainly wasn't in her apartment. 1809 01:51:22,298 --> 01:51:25,881 - Do you remember when it took place? - I don't have time for this. I'm a busy man. 1810 01:51:25,968 --> 01:51:27,048 Did you get all that? 1811 01:51:27,136 --> 01:51:29,129 What did he say about meeting in a bar or restaurant? 1812 01:51:29,222 --> 01:51:30,633 He said he forgot the entire incident. 1813 01:51:30,723 --> 01:51:33,179 - That means he didn't deny it. - That's a non-denial denial. 1814 01:51:33,267 --> 01:51:34,726 Wichita, Kansas? 1815 01:51:34,811 --> 01:51:36,887 Yeah, he said that's a bullshit question, Woodward... 1816 01:51:36,980 --> 01:51:39,186 I know what he said. But I'm from Wheaton, Illinois. 1817 01:51:39,273 --> 01:51:40,851 Hey, Bob, Carl. He's on the phone. 1818 01:51:40,942 --> 01:51:42,436 - Who? - Clawson. 1819 01:51:46,322 --> 01:51:50,106 Get over there on line 4 and transcribe this, will you? Four. 1820 01:51:50,868 --> 01:51:52,528 - Four? - Okay. Yeah. 1821 01:51:54,080 --> 01:51:55,195 Yes, Ken. 1822 01:51:55,290 --> 01:51:58,659 Sally, for Christ's sakes, don't tell them I came to your place. 1823 01:51:58,751 --> 01:52:01,207 Why not? What's wrong with coming over for a drink? 1824 01:52:01,296 --> 01:52:03,787 You and me? In your apartment? 1825 01:52:04,632 --> 01:52:05,711 Well? 1826 01:52:06,551 --> 01:52:08,958 Jesus Christ, you just shot me down. 1827 01:52:09,053 --> 01:52:12,802 If that appears in the papers that I'm over at your house, having... 1828 01:52:13,558 --> 01:52:16,393 - Do you know what that does? - No, I don't see why. 1829 01:52:16,478 --> 01:52:18,517 You don't? You don't? 1830 01:52:19,647 --> 01:52:22,933 - There's nothing bad about it. - Well, there sure is. 1831 01:52:25,153 --> 01:52:27,110 This is just incredible. 1832 01:52:27,864 --> 01:52:29,572 Well, I have a clear conscience. 1833 01:52:29,657 --> 01:52:32,777 Sally, I have a wife, and a family, and a dog, and a cat. 1834 01:52:34,245 --> 01:52:36,155 She said that he was in her house having drinks. 1835 01:52:36,247 --> 01:52:39,414 Now, look, I don't care where it happened. What happened is what counts. 1836 01:52:39,501 --> 01:52:42,667 When we asked him about it, he said he forgot the entire incident. 1837 01:52:43,004 --> 01:52:45,293 - Yeah? - Ken Clawson on the line. 1838 01:52:45,465 --> 01:52:47,790 - Ken Clawson on the line. - Jesus. 1839 01:52:50,804 --> 01:52:52,595 Ken. What's up, kid? 1840 01:52:52,681 --> 01:52:55,516 Ben, now, look, this whole thing that's going on over there, Ben... 1841 01:52:55,600 --> 01:52:58,601 I want you to know that I never claimed authorship of the Canuck letter! 1842 01:52:58,687 --> 01:53:00,145 Says he never wrote the letter. 1843 01:53:00,230 --> 01:53:03,147 It's some kind of misunderstanding, a confusion, I want you to know... 1844 01:53:03,233 --> 01:53:06,234 Slow down, Ken. You sound frazzled. 1845 01:53:06,319 --> 01:53:07,778 Now, Ben, please, listen. 1846 01:53:07,862 --> 01:53:11,397 If you're going to refer to that alleged conversation with Sally Aiken... 1847 01:53:11,491 --> 01:53:13,899 you can't print that it took place in her apartment. 1848 01:53:13,994 --> 01:53:16,745 I have a wife, and a family, and a dog, and a cat. 1849 01:53:16,830 --> 01:53:19,118 "A wife, and a family, and a dog, and a cat." 1850 01:53:19,207 --> 01:53:21,283 Right, Ken, right. Yeah. 1851 01:53:21,376 --> 01:53:24,745 Now, Ken, I don't want to print that you were in Sally's apartment. 1852 01:53:24,838 --> 01:53:25,917 Thank God. 1853 01:53:26,006 --> 01:53:29,457 I just want to know what you said in Sally's apartment. 1854 01:53:42,397 --> 01:53:43,856 - Hello. - Bernstein... 1855 01:53:43,940 --> 01:53:47,392 I just got a tip from our FBI source. The secret cash fund financed Segretti. 1856 01:53:47,486 --> 01:53:49,193 - Jesus. - All right. Now, listen. 1857 01:53:49,279 --> 01:53:52,730 Chapin hired Segretti, we know that. And we know Haldeman hired Chapin. 1858 01:53:52,824 --> 01:53:55,446 Haldeman has to be the fifth name to control the fund. 1859 01:53:56,369 --> 01:53:57,828 Sloan knows. 1860 01:54:00,165 --> 01:54:02,454 We've only got four out of the five who controlled the fund. 1861 01:54:02,542 --> 01:54:03,871 It has to be Haldeman. 1862 01:54:03,960 --> 01:54:06,036 I don't think we've got it. 1863 01:54:06,546 --> 01:54:08,503 We know the fifth is a top White House official. 1864 01:54:08,590 --> 01:54:10,583 But no one has said it. No one has named Haldeman. 1865 01:54:10,675 --> 01:54:14,543 - No one's denied it. - That still doesn't prove it was Haldeman. 1866 01:54:16,390 --> 01:54:18,678 If you go to bed at night and there's no snow on the ground... 1867 01:54:18,767 --> 01:54:20,475 when you wake up and there's snow on the ground... 1868 01:54:20,560 --> 01:54:23,182 you can say it snowed during the night, although you didn't see it. 1869 01:54:23,271 --> 01:54:25,679 But if we can't prove the fifth man is Haldeman, we're wiped out. 1870 01:54:25,774 --> 01:54:27,813 Everything in that campaign is done with his approval. 1871 01:54:27,901 --> 01:54:29,858 We know that everybody who works under Haldeman... 1872 01:54:29,945 --> 01:54:31,854 does so with his knowledge. 1873 01:54:31,947 --> 01:54:33,986 And everybody is under Haldeman, except the President. 1874 01:54:34,074 --> 01:54:36,399 Common sense says it's Haldeman. 1875 01:54:38,745 --> 01:54:40,702 If we go and see Sloan... 1876 01:54:40,789 --> 01:54:45,202 and we tell him that we know that he named Haldeman to the Grand Jury... 1877 01:54:46,670 --> 01:54:49,422 Then all we would need to do is have him confirm it. 1878 01:54:49,506 --> 01:54:50,669 Right. 1879 01:54:51,216 --> 01:54:53,423 - Want to do it that way? - Yes. 1880 01:54:54,511 --> 01:54:56,634 Let's go back and see Sloan. 1881 01:55:00,100 --> 01:55:02,176 We can't go now 'cause he's not home yet. 1882 01:55:02,936 --> 01:55:05,807 He may not be answering, but he might be there. 1883 01:55:20,621 --> 01:55:21,735 - Hi. - Please. 1884 01:55:21,830 --> 01:55:24,617 Listen, we've already written the story. We just need you to define... 1885 01:55:24,708 --> 01:55:26,665 Deborah's in the hospital and my in-laws are coming... 1886 01:55:26,752 --> 01:55:28,460 - Two questions? - We understand. 1887 01:55:28,545 --> 01:55:30,039 Two questions? 1888 01:55:33,383 --> 01:55:35,874 The cash that financed the Watergate break-in... 1889 01:55:35,969 --> 01:55:37,677 five men had control of the fund. 1890 01:55:37,763 --> 01:55:40,764 Mitchell, Stans, Magruder, Kalmbach. We have confirmations on those four. 1891 01:55:40,849 --> 01:55:43,636 - We just found out Haldeman's the fifth. - I'm not your source on that. 1892 01:55:43,727 --> 01:55:46,562 We're not asking you to be our source. All we're asking is to confirm it. 1893 01:55:46,647 --> 01:55:47,809 I'm not your source on Haldeman. 1894 01:55:47,898 --> 01:55:49,938 Okay, look, when you were questioned by the Grand Jury... 1895 01:55:50,025 --> 01:55:51,104 You had to name names. 1896 01:55:51,193 --> 01:55:54,776 - Of course, everything they asked, yes. - Lf they asked you. All right if they... 1897 01:55:57,574 --> 01:56:00,196 I don't know... Say we wrote a story that said that Haldeman... 1898 01:56:00,285 --> 01:56:02,077 was the fifth name to control the fund. 1899 01:56:02,162 --> 01:56:05,282 - Would we be in any trouble? - Would we be wrong? 1900 01:56:08,794 --> 01:56:10,703 Let me put it this way. 1901 01:56:11,046 --> 01:56:14,249 I would have no problems if you wrote a story like that. 1902 01:56:14,341 --> 01:56:16,001 - You wouldn't? - No. 1903 01:56:17,845 --> 01:56:19,837 - That's okay. Yeah. - Okay. 1904 01:56:20,347 --> 01:56:22,636 - Oh, you had a baby. - Yes, my wife did. 1905 01:56:22,725 --> 01:56:24,100 - Little boy or girl? - That's terrific. 1906 01:56:24,184 --> 01:56:25,264 It's a girl. 1907 01:56:25,352 --> 01:56:27,096 - Congratulations. - Thank you. 1908 01:56:27,187 --> 01:56:28,979 - We're sorry to bother you. - Yeah. 1909 01:56:29,064 --> 01:56:31,769 - Will you give our best to her? - I will. 1910 01:56:34,862 --> 01:56:38,231 Well, I think that, Woodward, and I am curious of the fact... 1911 01:56:38,324 --> 01:56:41,325 that the FBI, in its entire inquiry, never talked to the... 1912 01:56:41,410 --> 01:56:44,660 Or did any inquiries into the second most-powerful man to the President. 1913 01:56:44,747 --> 01:56:46,371 You don't seem to understand. 1914 01:56:46,457 --> 01:56:49,030 No, you get nothing about Haldeman out of me. 1915 01:56:49,335 --> 01:56:51,162 But we don't need to know anything, Joe. 1916 01:56:51,253 --> 01:56:53,412 Tomorrow we're going with a story on the FBI. 1917 01:56:53,506 --> 01:56:54,585 Now, what does that mean? 1918 01:56:54,673 --> 01:56:56,631 And we're going to establish in that story... 1919 01:56:56,717 --> 01:56:59,125 that you guys just about blew the whole investigation. 1920 01:56:59,220 --> 01:57:01,011 Oh, no, we didn't miss so much. 1921 01:57:01,096 --> 01:57:03,089 You didn't know Haldeman had control of the slush fund? 1922 01:57:03,182 --> 01:57:04,925 Oh, yes, we did. It's all in our files. 1923 01:57:05,017 --> 01:57:07,342 - Not about Haldeman. - Yeah, Haldeman. John Haldeman. 1924 01:57:07,436 --> 01:57:11,019 Look, now, look, I'm very busy. I've got to go put the kids to bed. 1925 01:57:12,858 --> 01:57:15,396 That's the confirmation right there. 1926 01:57:16,570 --> 01:57:19,026 Wait a minute, wait a sec. Did he say John? 1927 01:57:19,573 --> 01:57:21,696 - He said Haldeman. - He said John Haldeman. 1928 01:57:21,784 --> 01:57:24,275 What the hell difference does it make if he said Isaiah or David? 1929 01:57:24,370 --> 01:57:25,484 There's only one Haldeman. 1930 01:57:25,579 --> 01:57:29,031 Yeah, well, Isaiah or David aren't assistants to the President. 1931 01:57:29,542 --> 01:57:31,415 I don't know, it still feels thin. 1932 01:57:31,502 --> 01:57:33,542 Christ, I just wish we knew if we could print this. 1933 01:57:33,629 --> 01:57:35,752 Now wait a minute, we didn't make them do these things... 1934 01:57:35,840 --> 01:57:37,298 but once they did, they're fair game! 1935 01:57:37,383 --> 01:57:39,672 Harry, let's go over your sources again. I want to hear it. 1936 01:57:39,760 --> 01:57:42,880 Sloan told the Grand Jury. He answered everything they asked him. 1937 01:57:42,972 --> 01:57:44,881 That means there's gotta be a record somewhere. 1938 01:57:44,974 --> 01:57:48,094 He told the Grand Jury, the FBI confirms. What more do you need? 1939 01:57:48,185 --> 01:57:49,348 I happen to love this country. 1940 01:57:49,437 --> 01:57:51,595 You know, we're not a bunch of zanies out to bring it down! 1941 01:57:51,689 --> 01:57:53,397 Harry, weren't you arguing the opposite way? 1942 01:57:53,482 --> 01:57:55,025 No, not at all. 1943 01:57:55,192 --> 01:57:56,272 All right, now hold it. 1944 01:57:56,360 --> 01:57:58,519 One thing has nothing to do with the other. 1945 01:57:58,738 --> 01:58:01,145 We're about to accuse Haldeman who only happens to be... 1946 01:58:01,240 --> 01:58:03,149 the second-most-important man in this country... 1947 01:58:03,242 --> 01:58:06,029 of conducting a criminal conspiracy from inside the White House. 1948 01:58:06,120 --> 01:58:07,863 It would be nice if we were right. 1949 01:58:07,955 --> 01:58:09,912 - Have you double-checked your sources? - Jesus. 1950 01:58:09,999 --> 01:58:12,786 - Bernstein, are you sure on this story? - Absolutely! 1951 01:58:12,877 --> 01:58:14,620 - Woodward? - I'm sure. 1952 01:58:15,213 --> 01:58:17,585 I'm not. It still seems thin. 1953 01:58:17,882 --> 01:58:19,210 Get another source. 1954 01:58:19,300 --> 01:58:22,420 How many fucking sources do they think we've got? 1955 01:58:25,848 --> 01:58:29,264 - Are you sure Deep Throat won't confirm? - He won't confirm, I told you that. 1956 01:58:29,352 --> 01:58:30,597 What about the guy in Justice? 1957 01:58:30,686 --> 01:58:32,679 You can't call him. He's right next to the Grand Jury. 1958 01:58:32,772 --> 01:58:35,179 - We have no choice. It's trouble. - It's 20 minutes to deadline. 1959 01:58:35,274 --> 01:58:38,109 I don't even know if I can get him on the phone. 1960 01:58:53,126 --> 01:58:55,581 - Dr. Kissinger's office. - Deputy General's office, please. 1961 01:59:00,425 --> 01:59:02,216 Do you know when you expect him back? 1962 01:59:02,301 --> 01:59:04,294 No, sir. I believe he's left for the evening. 1963 01:59:04,387 --> 01:59:07,886 If you'd like to leave a message... Oh, could you hold, please? 1964 01:59:07,974 --> 01:59:10,346 Hi, this is Carl. I'm sorry to disturb you now... 1965 01:59:10,435 --> 01:59:12,926 but we're going with the story that Haldeman was the fifth man... 1966 01:59:13,021 --> 01:59:14,978 in control of the fund and they're hassling us here. 1967 01:59:15,064 --> 01:59:17,734 We've got three confirmations. If you could help us, I'd appreciate it. 1968 01:59:17,817 --> 01:59:19,560 I won't say anything about Haldeman. Not ever. 1969 01:59:19,652 --> 01:59:21,230 I understand. We wouldn't want you to do that. 1970 01:59:21,321 --> 01:59:23,313 We know it's against the law for you to say anything. 1971 01:59:23,406 --> 01:59:26,442 If there's a way you could warn us to hold on the story, we'd appreciate it. 1972 01:59:26,534 --> 01:59:28,491 I'd really like to help you, but I can't. 1973 01:59:28,578 --> 01:59:31,033 Look, I'm going to count to 10, all right? 1974 01:59:31,122 --> 01:59:33,162 If there's any reason we should hold on the story... 1975 01:59:33,249 --> 01:59:34,827 hang up the phone before I get to 10. 1976 01:59:34,918 --> 01:59:38,583 If the story's all right, you just be on the phone after I get to 10, all right? 1977 01:59:38,671 --> 01:59:40,545 - Hang up, right? - That's right. 1978 01:59:40,632 --> 01:59:41,960 - You got it? - Yeah. 1979 01:59:42,050 --> 01:59:44,837 We're straight. All right, I'm going to start counting, okay? 1980 01:59:44,928 --> 01:59:46,173 - We all right? - Yeah. 1981 01:59:46,262 --> 01:59:47,460 Okay, I'm counting. 1982 01:59:47,555 --> 01:59:49,714 One, two... 1983 01:59:50,266 --> 01:59:53,433 three, four, five... 1984 01:59:54,103 --> 01:59:56,179 six, seven... 1985 01:59:57,482 --> 02:00:01,349 eight, nine, ten. 1986 02:00:03,238 --> 02:00:06,025 You got it straight now? Everything okay? 1987 02:00:06,699 --> 02:00:08,407 Everything's fine. 1988 02:00:11,996 --> 02:00:13,241 Woodward! 1989 02:00:18,336 --> 02:00:19,665 We got it. 1990 02:00:22,048 --> 02:00:23,293 - He confirmed. - What happened? 1991 02:00:23,383 --> 02:00:26,004 I said if I get up to 10 and you don't hang up, it's solid. 1992 02:00:26,094 --> 02:00:27,292 - Did he confirm it? - Absolutely. 1993 02:00:27,387 --> 02:00:29,426 We've got to tell Bradlee! 1994 02:00:38,064 --> 02:00:41,729 Bernstein got another source. The guy at Justice confirmed. 1995 02:00:41,901 --> 02:00:43,645 If there's any doubt, we can run it tomorrow. 1996 02:00:43,737 --> 02:00:45,813 You don't have to. The story's solid. We're sure of it. 1997 02:00:45,905 --> 02:00:48,906 I just got off the phone with him. It's gold. 1998 02:00:50,076 --> 02:00:51,903 Okay, we go with it. 1999 02:01:05,091 --> 02:01:06,420 Woodstein! 2000 02:01:21,900 --> 02:01:24,106 - You know what it's about? - No. 2001 02:01:24,945 --> 02:01:26,937 Sloan, who resigned as campaign treasurer... 2002 02:01:27,030 --> 02:01:28,738 after the Watergate break-in... 2003 02:01:28,824 --> 02:01:31,493 showed up for a deposition in the common-cause suit on... 2004 02:01:31,576 --> 02:01:35,408 disclosure of campaign contributions, and denied naming Haldeman. 2005 02:01:35,497 --> 02:01:38,367 Mr. Sloan, would you care to comment on testimony before the Grand Jury? 2006 02:01:38,458 --> 02:01:40,202 I'd like my attorney to answer that question. 2007 02:01:40,293 --> 02:01:42,452 Gentlemen, the answer is an unequivocal "no." 2008 02:01:42,546 --> 02:01:45,879 Mr. Sloan did not implicate Mr. Haldeman in that testimony at all. 2009 02:01:45,966 --> 02:01:47,958 It is in his testimony that Mr. Sloan acknowledged... 2010 02:01:48,051 --> 02:01:49,960 - that it was an espionage fund? - No, not at all. 2011 02:01:50,053 --> 02:01:52,129 Did he mention any use of funds for espionage activity? 2012 02:01:52,222 --> 02:01:54,215 None, whatsoever. Thank you, gentlemen. Thank you. 2013 02:01:54,307 --> 02:01:57,511 Sloan expanded his denial to include his statements to the FBI... 2014 02:01:57,602 --> 02:02:00,687 and to all federal authorities. A short time later at the White House... 2015 02:02:00,772 --> 02:02:03,477 News Secretary Ronald Ziegler delivered a strong attack... 2016 02:02:03,567 --> 02:02:05,358 on the Washington Post. 2017 02:02:05,444 --> 02:02:08,860 Why is the Post trying to do it? You have a man... 2018 02:02:09,948 --> 02:02:13,317 who is the editor of the Washington Post by the name of Ben Bradlee. 2019 02:02:13,410 --> 02:02:16,909 I think anyone who would want to honestly assess... 2020 02:02:16,997 --> 02:02:19,998 what his political persuasions are, would... 2021 02:02:20,083 --> 02:02:22,657 I think come to the conclusion, quite quickly... 2022 02:02:22,753 --> 02:02:25,540 that he is not a supporter of President Nixon. 2023 02:02:25,631 --> 02:02:27,255 I respect the free press. 2024 02:02:27,341 --> 02:02:30,295 I don't respect the type of journalism... 2025 02:02:30,844 --> 02:02:34,794 the shabby journalism that is being practiced by the Washington Post. 2026 02:02:34,890 --> 02:02:37,926 All I know is that the story that ran this morning... 2027 02:02:38,727 --> 02:02:41,099 is incorrect and it's been so... 2028 02:02:42,022 --> 02:02:44,228 stated as being incorrect... 2029 02:02:44,691 --> 02:02:47,396 by not only me, but by the individual... 2030 02:02:47,694 --> 02:02:50,648 whose Grand Jury, secret Grand Jury testimony... 2031 02:02:50,739 --> 02:02:52,482 they based their story on. 2032 02:02:52,574 --> 02:02:56,275 And that individual has denied that he ever so testified. 2033 02:02:56,995 --> 02:03:00,032 No sooner had Ziegler finished, than the President's campaign manager... 2034 02:03:00,123 --> 02:03:01,997 Clark MacGregor, met with reporters. 2035 02:03:02,084 --> 02:03:03,708 Using innuendo... 2036 02:03:03,836 --> 02:03:05,709 third-person hearsay... 2037 02:03:05,796 --> 02:03:08,916 unsubstantiated charges, anonymous sources... 2038 02:03:09,216 --> 02:03:11,339 and huge, scare headlines... 2039 02:03:11,426 --> 02:03:14,546 the Post has maliciously sought to give the appearance... 2040 02:03:14,638 --> 02:03:17,722 of a direct connection between the White House and the Watergate. 2041 02:03:17,808 --> 02:03:19,884 A charge which the Post knows... 2042 02:03:19,977 --> 02:03:23,393 and half a dozen investigations have found to be false. 2043 02:03:24,148 --> 02:03:27,314 The hallmark of the Post campaign is hypocrisy... 2044 02:03:27,901 --> 02:03:32,065 and its celebrated double standard is today visible for all to see. 2045 02:03:32,573 --> 02:03:34,861 I'm not talking to you about Haldeman or anybody else. 2046 02:03:34,950 --> 02:03:36,113 - Then what went wrong? - Nothing. 2047 02:03:36,201 --> 02:03:37,364 Just tell us what went wrong? 2048 02:03:37,453 --> 02:03:40,407 Didn't you say that the FBI had the information on Haldeman in the files? 2049 02:03:40,497 --> 02:03:41,956 - No. - Because we have it in the notes... 2050 02:03:42,041 --> 02:03:44,080 from the conversation we had on the telephone right here. 2051 02:03:44,168 --> 02:03:46,244 We have to go talk to your boss if you don't talk to us. 2052 02:03:46,337 --> 02:03:49,172 What the hell are you talking about? I'll deny everything. 2053 02:03:49,256 --> 02:03:50,916 We're not trying to get anybody into trouble. 2054 02:03:51,008 --> 02:03:53,047 We're just trying to find out if we made some errors. 2055 02:03:53,135 --> 02:03:55,128 If we made a mistake, then we'll come off the story. 2056 02:03:55,220 --> 02:03:59,088 Just tell us if we're wrong. Tell us if we screwed up. 2057 02:03:59,266 --> 02:04:00,926 I'm not talking about it. 2058 02:04:01,018 --> 02:04:04,221 I am not talking to you about Haldeman or anybody else. 2059 02:04:04,313 --> 02:04:06,982 In fact, I can't even be seen talking to either one of you bastards. 2060 02:04:07,066 --> 02:04:10,435 - What are you afraid of? Who got to you? - Are we being set up? 2061 02:04:11,362 --> 02:04:13,271 - Are we, Joe? Tell us! - Are we being set up? 2062 02:04:13,364 --> 02:04:15,855 - Just tell us, we won't print it. - Fuck you. 2063 02:04:16,116 --> 02:04:17,575 And fuck you! 2064 02:04:24,375 --> 02:04:25,573 Honest to God, I just don't know. 2065 02:04:25,668 --> 02:04:27,660 - Oh, I see. - It's in the notes! 2066 02:04:28,462 --> 02:04:32,294 Yeah, we had another call on a long list and I've got another call, I've gotta go. 2067 02:04:32,383 --> 02:04:34,790 - Did you mean Bob Haldeman? - Yeah, Bob Haldeman. 2068 02:04:37,471 --> 02:04:39,630 Jesus, what was our mistake? 2069 02:04:39,974 --> 02:04:42,097 Maybe there was no mistake. 2070 02:04:42,309 --> 02:04:46,437 Then they're just setting us up. Then the whole thing was a set-up? 2071 02:04:47,898 --> 02:04:49,772 And they just hung us. 2072 02:04:50,526 --> 02:04:53,361 More denunciations. You'll have to make a statement, Ben. 2073 02:04:53,446 --> 02:04:57,443 One senator just gave a speech slurring us 57 times in 20 minutes. 2074 02:04:57,533 --> 02:05:00,949 I knew we had enemies, but I didn't know we were this popular. 2075 02:05:01,537 --> 02:05:03,197 Wow, look at this. 2076 02:05:05,666 --> 02:05:07,458 My non-denial denial. 2077 02:05:16,510 --> 02:05:18,918 Fuck it, let's stand by the boys. 2078 02:05:19,555 --> 02:05:21,049 Okay. Foreign? 2079 02:05:22,391 --> 02:05:24,348 All right, here's our headline. 2080 02:05:24,435 --> 02:05:27,970 Radio Hanoi reports the United States-North Vietnam agreement... 2081 02:05:28,064 --> 02:05:30,222 for a settlement of the Vietnam War. 2082 02:05:38,282 --> 02:05:40,904 Woodward, what did you find out? What'd he say? 2083 02:05:40,993 --> 02:05:42,156 What time is it? 2084 02:05:42,245 --> 02:05:44,486 - You fell asleep? - God damn it! 2085 02:07:08,790 --> 02:07:10,118 Over here. 2086 02:07:33,857 --> 02:07:35,766 You let Haldeman slip away. 2087 02:07:35,859 --> 02:07:36,938 Yes. 2088 02:07:37,026 --> 02:07:39,233 You've done worse than let Haldeman slip away. 2089 02:07:39,320 --> 02:07:43,152 You've got people feeling sorry for him. I didn't think that was possible. 2090 02:07:43,241 --> 02:07:45,115 In a conspiracy like this... 2091 02:07:45,201 --> 02:07:48,653 you build from the outer edges and you go step by step. 2092 02:07:48,830 --> 02:07:52,578 If you shoot too high and miss, everybody feels more secure. 2093 02:07:52,834 --> 02:07:56,534 - You put the investigation back months. - Yes, we know that. 2094 02:07:56,921 --> 02:07:59,459 And if we're wrong, we're resigning. 2095 02:08:00,842 --> 02:08:02,336 Were we wrong? 2096 02:08:04,471 --> 02:08:06,594 You'll have to find that out, won't you? 2097 02:08:06,681 --> 02:08:09,599 Listen, I'm tired of your chicken-shit games! 2098 02:08:10,894 --> 02:08:12,637 I don't want hints. 2099 02:08:13,188 --> 02:08:15,346 I need to know what you know. 2100 02:08:31,247 --> 02:08:33,370 It was a Haldeman operation. 2101 02:08:34,876 --> 02:08:38,708 The whole business was run by Haldeman, the money, everything. 2102 02:08:39,130 --> 02:08:43,377 It won't be easy getting at him. He was insulated. You'll have to find out how. 2103 02:08:47,222 --> 02:08:50,389 Mitchell started doing covert stuff before anyone else. 2104 02:08:50,475 --> 02:08:53,393 The list is longer than anyone can imagine. 2105 02:08:55,730 --> 02:08:59,562 It involves the entire U.S. Intelligence community... 2106 02:09:01,194 --> 02:09:02,357 FBI... 2107 02:09:03,572 --> 02:09:06,905 CIA, Justice. It's incredible. 2108 02:09:09,786 --> 02:09:11,909 The cover-up had little to do with Watergate. 2109 02:09:11,997 --> 02:09:15,366 It was mainly to protect the covert operations. 2110 02:09:17,377 --> 02:09:19,121 It leads everywhere. 2111 02:09:22,257 --> 02:09:24,795 Get out your notebook. There's more. 2112 02:09:30,932 --> 02:09:32,972 Your lives are in danger. 2113 02:09:34,603 --> 02:09:37,176 Hi, I finally got Sloan on the phone. 2114 02:10:56,852 --> 02:10:58,809 Why the hell didn't you tell me over the phone? 2115 02:10:58,896 --> 02:11:01,019 - Woodward says phones aren't safe. - Can't trust them. 2116 02:11:01,106 --> 02:11:02,898 - Come on in. - We can't come in, sir. 2117 02:11:02,983 --> 02:11:06,019 Woodward says there's electronic surveillance. 2118 02:11:22,711 --> 02:11:24,870 - Surveillance? Who's doing it? - It's being done. 2119 02:11:24,963 --> 02:11:27,289 People's lives are in danger. Maybe even ours. 2120 02:11:27,383 --> 02:11:29,174 What happened to that Justice source of yours? 2121 02:11:29,259 --> 02:11:31,086 I guess I made the instructions too complicated. 2122 02:11:31,178 --> 02:11:33,550 Because he thought I said "hang up" when I just said "hang on." 2123 02:11:33,639 --> 02:11:35,631 - Oh, Jesus! - The story is right. 2124 02:11:35,724 --> 02:11:37,717 Haldeman was the fifth name to control that fund... 2125 02:11:37,810 --> 02:11:40,894 - and Sloan would've told the Grand Jury. - Sloan wanted to tell the Jury. 2126 02:11:40,980 --> 02:11:42,390 - Why didn't he? - Because nobody asked. 2127 02:11:42,481 --> 02:11:43,940 Nobody asked him. 2128 02:11:44,024 --> 02:11:45,851 The cover-up had little to do with the break-in. 2129 02:11:45,943 --> 02:11:48,481 It was to protect covert operations and the covert activities... 2130 02:11:48,570 --> 02:11:50,943 involving the entire U.S. Intelligence community. 2131 02:11:51,031 --> 02:11:53,653 Did Deep Throat say that people's lives are in danger? 2132 02:11:53,742 --> 02:11:54,822 Yes. 2133 02:11:54,910 --> 02:11:58,611 - What else did he say? - He said everyone is involved. 2134 02:12:06,630 --> 02:12:09,300 You know the results of the latest Gallup Poll? 2135 02:12:09,383 --> 02:12:12,218 Half the country never even heard of the word "Watergate." 2136 02:12:12,303 --> 02:12:14,094 Nobody gives a shit. 2137 02:12:16,724 --> 02:12:19,179 You guys are probably pretty tired, right? 2138 02:12:19,602 --> 02:12:21,927 You should be. Go on home. 2139 02:12:22,521 --> 02:12:25,356 Get a nice hot bath, rest up 15 minutes... 2140 02:12:25,774 --> 02:12:28,182 then get your asses back in gear. 2141 02:12:28,652 --> 02:12:32,484 We're under a lot of pressure, you know, and you put us there. 2142 02:12:33,866 --> 02:12:38,409 Nothing's riding on this except the First Amendment of the Constitution... 2143 02:12:38,496 --> 02:12:42,114 freedom of the press, and maybe the future of the country. 2144 02:12:44,168 --> 02:12:46,457 Not that any of that matters... 2145 02:12:46,670 --> 02:12:49,956 but if you guys fuck up again, I'm going to get mad. 2146 02:12:52,009 --> 02:12:53,338 Goodnight. 2147 02:13:21,247 --> 02:13:23,370 And now, fellow Americans... 2148 02:13:23,666 --> 02:13:27,664 the Honorable Chief Justice will administer the oath of office... 2149 02:13:28,254 --> 02:13:31,421 to the President of the United States of America. 2150 02:13:31,507 --> 02:13:33,167 Mr. Chief Justice. 2151 02:13:55,406 --> 02:13:59,190 Mr. President, are you ready to take the constitutional oath? 2152 02:13:59,410 --> 02:14:03,704 If you will place your left hand on the Bible and raise your right hand... 2153 02:14:03,790 --> 02:14:08,582 and please repeat after me. "I, Richard Nixon, do solemnly swear... 2154 02:14:08,711 --> 02:14:11,333 "I, Richard Nixon, do solemnly swear... 2155 02:14:11,422 --> 02:14:15,965 "...that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States... 2156 02:14:16,219 --> 02:14:20,003 "...that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States... 2157 02:14:20,098 --> 02:14:24,724 - "...and will, to the best of my ability... - "...and will, to the best of my ability... 2158 02:14:24,811 --> 02:14:29,188 "...preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States... 2159 02:14:29,399 --> 02:14:33,396 "...preserve and protect and defend the Constitution of the United States... 2160 02:14:33,486 --> 02:14:36,404 - "...so help me, God." - "...so help me, God."